#2 Astral projection without faila part is the original astral projection without fail and some other frequencys.
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if the firs version was powerfull this one will get u in the astral. i don't respond very well at BW but with this one "i was not in the control". i used as background LamaKarta5.wav (30%-40% volume| Presets: Meditation/Relaxation , u can download it from here) Submitted: 21-Jan-2004 by
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22-Jan-2004, Mike |
this is great. its so relaxing i love it. good job |
22-Jan-2004, dh |
ok, i found some bugs in the preset... :)) ... big bugs, so part A voice #1 audible pitch 72.hz 0 time 70. 1.9 75. 5.81 78. 12 72. 20 sound volume right 0% voice #2 audible pitch 90.hz 0 time 86. 5.95 83. 10.1 86. 16.76 90. 20 the rest of voices (from 3 to 6) unselect Binaureal Beat frequency, then select it again if is not selected, select it. (i sugest you don't modify voice #4, or if u modify it keep a low volume somewhere at 10%,or lower the pitch) voice 7 audible pitch 109hz now the audible pitch u'll be hire, i sugest also to lower it around 100Hz-400Hz lowering the octaves. (note: the original works better :)), but u should modify voice 1 and 2) |
Is this last upload with the bug fixes or must we modify it as you wrote above ?
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Tried it twice in a row, it gets you really relaxed which is good. Though projection wise I don't think I got any closer than using any of the other presets. In fact, I actually think I got closest not using anything at all. However it should be noted that I used it as is, that is without removing any bugs and setting the background sound. Might try that later... As a side-note though, when I first began practising AP I got the feeling of "going up" as you described. However after lots more practise, and getting closer I have realized it was all in my mind, because I "expected it", and not because it really happened. I think the preset has potential though, and other people might find more success with it than I did. |
Hi everyone... I've been checking out this site from time to time and have tried many of the presets, only two somewhat that worked, and only enough to endure vibrations. But i thought I would share some things with all you to hopefully help you with your astral projection methods. I have never had a full OBE but I was able to raise my head out of my body, but then like most of you i got excited and fell back in. what little I did experience was an amazing sensation. I felt like I was under water..except without the wetness and the cold. You fee lighter, things get a little quieter and it's just really hard to explain what it feels like. But pretty much the best method to use is meditation. I don't suggest depending on these presets. They are meant to be a tool to make the process easier. The Monroe institure uses frequencies too to help endure OBE's but they use them along with regular relaxation techniques. One misconception that I feel a lot of you have is that you don't need or have to wait for the vibrations to astral project, in fact you want your physical body to feel nothing as much as possible. The vibrations will just distract you. Basically the point you want to get to is where you totally don't feel your body at all..then concentrate on sitting up..then sit up like you normally would but with your astral body, not your phsyical one. So don't depend on those vibrations they are not needed. In fact you will know when you're ready to exit your body. Just meditate and focus..and please do not fully depend on any frequency to just pop you out with out doing any work at all. Most important let go of all fear or you may not be mentally ready and that can hold you back. My last suggestion is...is that any of you do astral project..get used to it...keep practicing until you can control your astral body. It's like being born again..you have to learn how to crawl, walk, etc..all over again. But when you learn how it is possible to enter another person's dream and help pull them out of their physical body..which i advise against unless you know what you're doing because there are risks. Anyway if anyone would like any more info and help...feel free to post back to me or write me an e-mail. Good luck all. |
Tom, You are right, one shouldn't depend on these presets to help you get out of the body. All they can do is help you reach a certain state which is beneficial to leave the body. As well as, if you are lucky, a sound that is good enough so it is easy to keep focus on this sound, and this sound alone long enough for the vibrations to be induced. The vibrations as you say are nothing you should "depend" on. They are only a sign that the astral body is letting go of the physical body, meaning separation is very close. There are some people who don't even experience them, though most people do in one way or the other. As for helping people through dreams, that is not possible. When a person sleeps you will see that person in the astral (assumably he has left his body and is in the astral, not aware and dreaming). Though he will look like a drunk person in the astral, either sitting down, or walking around acting strange. He can remember seeing you in a dream, and you MIGHT be able to trigger an unconscious thought which MIGHT make his unconscious react and make him wake up, having a lucid dream. I.e. for the same reason something in a dream can make you snap thinking "but this can't be real". But this is doubtful, and most people don't believe this, and not very likely he by this will get into a lucid dream. And even if he does, he also has to break free of the lucid dream to loose his subconscious images and see the astral. You cannot however willfully by experience make someone wake in a dream beside MAYBE give his subconscious a small trigger. |
It all depends on the situation..it is possible to help someone out of thier body through a dream..it's actually been done and there are few documented accounts. The person has to be willing, and it also takes a lot of energy from both parties, if done a certain way and done properly it is very well possible. For example once in an astral state the mind is more open to subliminal suggestion. Like if I had entered someone's dreams..I could tap into the subconcious mind and make suggestions like a hypnotist would make to the person under hypnosis. Although the few cases that have been documented and accepted were done by some who practice the religion of witchcraft a.k.a wicca. So perhaps they have a bunch of different methods. To me I think it all depends on how open and receptive you are to such things. It's something I will have to experiment on when I fully astral project. Remember this though...in the astral plane...NOTHING is impossible.
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Yeah. I think the closest I got to an out of body experience with a brainwave generator preset was sleep paralysis. It had me bouncing up and down between alpha and theta. It was a modification I did to an already existing preset, I think.
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I do have another alternative but I don't recommend it and I'm sure a lot of other people won't either. But when I got the closest to astral projection was when I took a few muscle relaxers. It was quicker to relax the body, and it made me drowsy but not to where I'd fall asleep. It brought me exactly where I need to be and that's when you're mind starts wandering while you're bordering the sleep state. It took about half an hour to feel it. It was a lot quicker and easier. But I don't recommend doing it that way. I'm going to try it again like that sometime just to see if i can get as close as i did before.
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Dont take drugs to astral project. There is a difference between borderline projection, and feeling f***** up. There is a reason you weren't successful. And even if you were, its not like you did it yourself. Even things like the brainwave generator, should only be used to get you used to projection, then you shoudl learn to do it on your own, with complete control.
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This is the only preset I have found that has any effect on me, I listened to this three times in a row last night, and each time the effects got more noticeable. Near the end of the third pass I started seeing weird swirling patterns and my whole body started tingling. I would have carried on but I had to go out & the damn phone rang! I felt a bit strange for about the next hour - this really does do something, nice preset! Will try again over the next couple of days.
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Yeah but drugs don't really keep you from astral projecting. At least muscle relaxers don't. They slow down your heartbeat..which is something you want. Cuz when you astral project your heartbeat slows way down
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i think, this is all brai-chemistry&physics; ... it has nothing to do with spiritual stuff... ?? |
Yes dzitr, I think so. I get annoyed when people who do this sort of thing throw in a load of mystical crap, and the idea of the 'astral plane' is a bit stupid to me, as far as I can tell, it's all just in our heads, and we make of it what we like. Most people seem to accept the idea of the 'astral plane' though, maybe because it gives them a sense of empowerment, being able to see more things and do things others can't. Who knows. You could just as easily take someone who's never heard of drugs before, give them some LSD, and tell them it will really take them to a magical fantasy world that truly exists, and they'd believe it. Sorry if I've annoyed any believers, but I'm a hardline materialist I guess. Seems like there's a lot of common experiences with the OOBE presets, I've had a lot of what other people here have experienced. I always get extremely strong feelings of motion, pushing and pulling, and vibrations. But I've never had anything visual. I'm starting to think that a lot of this is a placebo effect. |
06-May-2004, dh |
Hi guys Well let�s start, I think that almost all of us are going in light trance (mental and physical relaxation) when we listen bwgen presets which is good very good. Now, the problem is that we need a medium trance (visual hallucinations) or even better a deep trance (somnambulism) for astral projection. Obtaining this is quite simple or not cause that depends on us, but we all can get in there. So take you�re mic and record (u can go on google and search for free hypnotic scripts) Or u can ask for a friend or a hypno pro. [recording] take a deep breath, slowly, slowly, take another one you first saw when you were born and without knowing that was the first mental image that u created, later you have learn the objects, the colors, and u�ve created mental images with all this even later u�ve learn the letters, A, B, C, and so on, it was hard at first but in the end u succeeded and with everything new that u felt or saw u�ve created mental images now u can go with your mind to rediscover all that u wish, u may feel water, warm, sunbeams u can do whatever u wish You don't even have to listen to my voice, because your unconscious will hear it. Just relax, take another deep breath, and u will soon discover the beauty of your unconscious mind that can try whatever it wants when we go to bed for sleep we are thinking at many things and we jump from one thought to another until we soon fall deep asleep we start to dream, and the dreams push us even deeper into sleep Now physical comfort exists, but you don't even need to pay attention to your relaxation and comfort. it can take time to go deeper into the trance, but when your unconscious will be ready it will let u slide all the way u can just let yourself dream�and let your unconscious mind work on, whatever it wishes one of you�re hand will start to raise in the air soon, as u go deeper asleep, it will raise a few inches (centimeters) and the it will go easily back u don�t need to think about it cause your unconscious mind will take care of it now I will slowly count from 10 to 1 in any way I want and u can notice the small vibrations that every number produces them u can notice them inside you, and u can notice how after every vibration u become more and more relaxed permitting u to go even deeper asleep 10, 9, 8, 4, 6, 5, 7, 9, 3, 2, 1� some times we all lose track of time, we lose the sensation of our body we forget were we are you can go into a trance to find out a whole lot of things that you can do. And they are so many more than you dreamed of. I will start counting shortly again from 10 to 1 and know you will discover that your entire body will start to vibrate, and your astral body will begin to arise slowly departing from your physical body, and your conscious moving into the astral body when you�ll get back in your body you will start counting from 1 to 10 and slowly wake up as u count every time u�ll find it more easy to go in trance, it�s like a road that now u know it and u understanding it better. And every time u�ll go deeper and deeper it may take some time for your astral body separating completely, it�s own time 10�.9�.the vibrations are getting stronger�9�8�..7�.the legs are staring to separate�.7�.6�.5�the hands are starting to separate�4�3�the entire body it�s starting to separate�.3�.2�..1�..your conscious is moving in your astral body, your astral body is rising [end] well guys good luck pls feedback succes or fail it shoud go better with a good preset (one that works for u) |
16-Jun-2004, (unknown) |
Hi ppl, I have a question Is it possible that people who had obe due to using presets achieved it by concentratig on the sound? Perhaps it is the same as concentrating on breathing? It would explain why some poeple succeed in using presets and some do not. Some ppl just concentrate on the sound better than others because they have better concentration skills, what do u think? |
I think that best way of inducing an OOBE is to follow while concentrating a sound which moves in space. It is necessary to have a software which produces a sound in 3d. Does this kind of software exist? I already had 3 OOBE by concentrating me on a sound which moved around my head. But now I cannot any more because I have probleme to concentrate. |
That sounds very interesting. I myself have not had so many APs, but the ones i've experienced have been very interesting. I have an advice for you to get more APs. You might have already heard of this but anyway.. Set an alarm early in the morning, like 2-3 hours before you usually wake up. Then stay up for � -1 hour and do whatever (a good tip is to put on your clothes(!). Then go back to bed. Then try to keep conscious. This have produced several lucid dreams for me(sometimes like 10 of them in one try), and also APs. You will have the best effects while lieng on you right side. Back is also quite good. Left is not so good. Good luck ! /Bj�rn |
Not good preset for me...I'm really tired after it and only unexpected fing was that after 30minutes of listening my right hand started moving without my will.....
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after experimenting with brain wave stuff for 2 years, I can have an OBE at anytime when I am still, by tuning out for a few minutes. However, this preset had some very interesting effects. I listened to it about 3 times before noticing the most powerful effects. I sat up the first time, layed down the next 2 times. I really had to listen and focus on the sounds for them to take effect. I listened to this preset pretty loud, too. Almost head-hurting loud. First I felt my body vibrate, then I noticed my neck was not relaxed. I tried lifting my head to shift it, but couldn't. I was almost paralyzed, but in a relaxed sort of way. Then I found that my thoughts were wandering.. and in front of my closed eyes I saw a flash of light, almost like that of a collapsing star. After this point I was on a beach, on a cloudy day. Sort of felt the waves moving back and forth, and felt the sand beneath my feet. Then I saw a former love on the beach, I could feel our eyes meet and I walked up to him. We had a conversation about our situation and what needs to be done, as well as what will happen. This scene repeated several times, becoming more real and more detailed each time. Then I fell asleep. When I awoke I knew I had made contact with this person on another 'plane' so to speak, and felt peace about what action to take...as well as close to this person. But also, let me add that falling asleep to this preset is a bad, bad idea. I always feel majorly irritated afterwards... almost edgy. Maybe because I listened to it so loud. It doesn't really do anything for my mood, but its worth it to travel like that. I'm not sure if this is OBE or remote viewing, but whatever. It helps alot, I like it. |
29-Aug-2004, brokers |
also, I fixed the bugs in the preset before listening to it.
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11-Feb-2005, mastermind |
very, very good job
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24-Jul-2005, C |
Presets tend to be good for meditative / insane things mostly because they give you something constant (or consistant in change) to listen to.
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20-Oct-2005, Ken |
Are the bugs fixed in this preset? Or do you have to go in and manually fix em?
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hello it is like this, i realy want to make an AP but i dont have the money s� i can register so that i can download this file and play it, s� o wunderd if some one might give me a name and key i wold be so hapy if eny one wold help me with this hava a nice day /Krille |
ermm...i get a distorted sound when i listen to it...like my speakers are up to high...help? or is it supposed to be like that?
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Amazing.. i never had an full OBE... but this preset and another one out there called "you WANT astral you GET astral" they are the best so far for me. the only problem is that i got afraid on 2x times i listened each one at the point i was certain to get out.. i wasn't believing it how easy it was to get out.. but now i really think i should get a little more mature about it and face it quietly.. no doubts and no chains between my mind and bed hehe. the only problem is that i can't reach this so sensitive state again with those 2 presets... it's like they don't have the same impact anymore..then i keep searching others to hear. But maybe i need to focus on relaxing and concentration, an empty, relaxed and focused mind.. i'm feeling a big lack of this on me. BrainWave generator is a amazing software, thank's very much for this well done work, for the first time, i'm proud of paying a user license for a software. and this one has the most beautiful and educational intents ever. great work.
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I can't seem to find the LamaKarta file. Is there anyone someone can put up a link? Like a shortcut or something that will lead me directly to the .wav? Thanks! -Shawn |
14-Nov-2006, Hodge |
I listened to this preset last night while I was quit high on pot and had the most intense trip of my life. I'd tried it before sober and felt the quick, excited underwater feeling someone else described but this time was far different. I was totally zoned into the sound and felt loose inside my body but then when that first drop in pitch happened, I tore out of my body and became an airplane, flying over my body which had become a vast mountain range. I discovered my thoughts had opened up and the spirals of my mind were coming loose then he second drop in pitch happened and I pictured a spire stretching from my body up into space, I followed it up and up until I reached a brief moment where I felt I encompassed all of infinity. The rest of the preset I spent floating, disconnected from my body, my thoughts stacking like neverending dominoes. It was truly amazing and I know that the weed and this preset both allowed me to reach this plateau
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08-Aug-2007, Eithan |
This preset is awesome. I really felt strange things.
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12-Dec-2007, Chira |
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Yeah. That would be cool.
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where is the background????
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can you upload new preset with bug fixed becauese i dont understand exactly how can i fix (i used with bug and i think best preset i feel i'm very close to oobe) thanx good job
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The first time I astral projected & rememembered the wholleee thing (it was pretty long too) I had took a muscle relaxer & forced myself to stay awake...until the point where i randomly feel asleep on the floor. This was before i knew about astralprojection. I was freaked out & stuck in a loop of dream realms. but ummm....I just took a muscle relaxer right now & im going to try it again but only this time im gonna try |
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