Re: Fixed Centre Frequencies not fixed lower - anyone interested?

Original message from: "Mikko Noromaa (Noromaa Solutions)" 
>Hi,
>
>> Mikko, how would you feel about a "symmetrical" checkbox 
that held the
>> centre frequency constant and divided the split evenly 
between left and
>> right channels?
>> 
>> eg 14Hz beat with 100Hz carrier would be 93Hz & 107Hz
>>     7Hz beat with 100Hz carrier would be 96.5 & 103.5
>> 
>> The arithmetic is trivial, and having a checkbox that applied 
to all presets
>> (a BWGEN option) but could be changed whe playing a 
particular preset would
>> allow those that prefer the existing scheme (and existing 
presets) to stay
>> as they are, and those that prefer the new scheme would 
have that
>> flexibility.
>
>Good idea. We'll think about implementing it in the next version.
>Now that I think about it, this could be the ONLY way of setting
>the audible pitch frequency (I don't like to add too many 
options
>and settings, because they tend to make the program more 
complex).
>Is there any reason why the old system (left channel always 
being
>equal to the frequency set by the Audible Pitch parameter) 
would be
>preferred over this symmetrical system? If the user wants to 
keep
>the other channel fixed, he/she can always do some math and 
set
>the Audible Pitch accordingly.
>
>It would also be easy to convert the old presets into the new 
system
>automatically.
>
>By the way, it is quite simple to set this kind of symmetrical 
carrier
>frequencies already now. Suppose you want a sweep from 12 
Hz (with
>400 Hz carrier) to 6 Hz (with 200 Hz carrier), you would set the
>nodes as follows:
>
>First node: BinF=12Hz, Pitch=394Hz.
>Last node: BinF=6Hz, Pitch=197Hz.
>
>The problem here is that the BinF frequencies must be even 
numbers because
>currently BWGEN doesn't accept decimals in the Pitch 
parameter. This
>will change in the next version.
>
>-- 
>
>Mikko Noromaa ([email protected])
>Noromaa Solutions - see http://www.bwgen.com
>
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Re: Fixed Centre Frequencies not fixed lower - anyone

If you are doing an online vote, mine's yes.
At 09:59 PM 9/1/99 +0300, Tolliver Steve wrote:
>Original message from: "Mikko Noromaa (Noromaa Solutions)" 
>>Hi,
>>
>>> Mikko, how would you feel about a "symmetrical" checkbox 
>that held the
>>> centre frequency constant and divided the split evenly 
>between left and
>>> right channels?
>>> 
>>> eg 14Hz beat with 100Hz carrier would be 93Hz & 107Hz
>>>     7Hz beat with 100Hz carrier would be 96.5 & 103.5
>>> 
>>> The arithmetic is trivial, and having a checkbox that applied 
>to all presets
>>> (a BWGEN option) but could be changed whe playing a 
>particular preset would
>>> allow those that prefer the existing scheme (and existing 
>presets) to stay
>>> as they are, and those that prefer the new scheme would 
>have that
>>> flexibility.
>>
>>Good idea. We'll think about implementing it in the next version.
>>Now that I think about it, this could be the ONLY way of setting
>>the audible pitch frequency (I don't like to add too many 
>options
>>and settings, because they tend to make the program more 
>complex).
>>Is there any reason why the old system (left channel always 
>being
>>equal to the frequency set by the Audible Pitch parameter) 
>would be
>>preferred over this symmetrical system? If the user wants to 
>keep
>>the other channel fixed, he/she can always do some math and 
>set
>>the Audible Pitch accordingly.
>>
>>It would also be easy to convert the old presets into the new 
>system
>>automatically.
>>
>>By the way, it is quite simple to set this kind of symmetrical 
>carrier
>>frequencies already now. Suppose you want a sweep from 12 
>Hz (with
>>400 Hz carrier) to 6 Hz (with 200 Hz carrier), you would set the
>>nodes as follows:
>>
>>First node: BinF=12Hz, Pitch=394Hz.
>>Last node: BinF=6Hz, Pitch=197Hz.
>>
>>The problem here is that the BinF frequencies must be even 
>numbers because
>>currently BWGEN doesn't accept decimals in the Pitch 
>parameter. This
>>will change in the next version.
>>
>>-- 
>>
>>Mikko Noromaa ([email protected])
>>Noromaa Solutions - see http://www.bwgen.com
>>
>>
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Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew

I didn't get the point:
why do you need this electronic equipment,
why not to create a sine wave in any sound editor (say, CoolEdit)?
Ivan
Drew Pierson wrote:
> 
> Ask them if you can run a 1/8" jack out of it to the mic input of the
> computer.  Otherwise you will have to record onto another medium depending
> on the output modality.  And then transfer it to the computer.....
> 
> Drew
> 
> ----------
> >From: [email protected]
> >To: [email protected]
> >Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
> >Date: Fri, Aug 27, 1999, 7:20 PM
> >
> 
> > Thanks I finally found it.
> > But does a device like this attach to your computer or to something else?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
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Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew

Hey, If Cool Edit can produce a (i.e. 40hz signal and a 47hz signal)  any
signal below 100hz and the carrier offset also - One for the right and one
for the left, then go for it - that's all you need.
Drew
s----- Original Message -----
From: Ivan Shiyan <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
> I didn't get the point:
> why do you need this electronic equipment,
> why not to create a sine wave in any sound editor (say, CoolEdit)?
>
> Ivan
>
> Drew Pierson wrote:
> >
> > Ask them if you can run a 1/8" jack out of it to the mic input of the
> > computer.  Otherwise you will have to record onto another medium
depending
> > on the output modality.  And then transfer it to the computer.....
> >
> > Drew
> >
> > ----------
> > >From: [email protected]
> > >To: [email protected]
> > >Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
> > >Date: Fri, Aug 27, 1999, 7:20 PM
> > >
> >
> > > Thanks I finally found it.
> > > But does a device like this attach to your computer or to something
else?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
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RE: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew

Cool Edit also has a special Brainwave Synchronizer feature, please read below
for details:  
With the Brainwave Synchronizer (/Transform/Special menu), you can modify stereo
files to produce sounds that when listened to with stereo headphones can put the
listener into any desired state of awareness.  For example, by listening to
waved files, you can easily achieve states such as deep sleep, theta meditation,
or alpha relaxation.  Because of the nature of this function, it only works on
Stereo waveform data, and to be effective, must be listened to with stereo
headphones.  The Wave function spatially locates the audio left and right, in a
circular pattern over time.  In order to spatially encode the signal, either the
left or right channel is delayed so that the sounds will appear at each ear at
different times, tricking the brain into thinking they are coming from either
side.  When this is done at frequencies of 3Hz and above, the brain will start
synchronizing at the same frequency, increasing its output of Delta, Theta,
Alpha, or Beta frequencies.
Rollie 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Drew Pierson [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:51 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
Hey, If Cool Edit can produce a (i.e. 40hz signal and a 47hz signal)  any
signal below 100hz and the carrier offset also - One for the right and one
for the left, then go for it - that's all you need.
Drew
s----- Original Message -----
From: Ivan Shiyan <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
> I didn't get the point:
> why do you need this electronic equipment,
> why not to create a sine wave in any sound editor (say, CoolEdit)?
>
> Ivan
>
> Drew Pierson wrote:
> >
> > Ask them if you can run a 1/8" jack out of it to the mic input of the
> > computer.  Otherwise you will have to record onto another medium
depending
> > on the output modality.  And then transfer it to the computer.....
> >
> > Drew
> >
> > ----------
> > >From: [email protected]
> > >To: [email protected]
> > >Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
> > >Date: Fri, Aug 27, 1999, 7:20 PM
> > >
> >
> > > Thanks I finally found it.
> > > But does a device like this attach to your computer or to something
else?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew

So what's the diff b/w cool edit's features and brainwave generator?
Seems BWG is easier to program and you can control more parameters
easily.
On Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:46:26 +0300 (EET DST), you wrote:
>Cool Edit also has a special Brainwave Synchronizer feature, please read below
>for details:  
>
>With the Brainwave Synchronizer (/Transform/Special menu), you can modify stereo
>files to produce sounds that when listened to with stereo headphones can put the
>listener into any desired state of awareness.  For example, by listening to
>waved files, you can easily achieve states such as deep sleep, theta meditation,
>or alpha relaxation.  Because of the nature of this function, it only works on
>Stereo waveform data, and to be effective, must be listened to with stereo
>headphones.  The Wave function spatially locates the audio left and right, in a
>circular pattern over time.  In order to spatially encode the signal, either the
>left or right channel is delayed so that the sounds will appear at each ear at
>different times, tricking the brain into thinking they are coming from either
>side.  When this is done at frequencies of 3Hz and above, the brain will start
>synchronizing at the same frequency, increasing its output of Delta, Theta,
>Alpha, or Beta frequencies.
>
>Rollie 
>==========================================
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Drew Pierson [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:51 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
>
>
>Hey, If Cool Edit can produce a (i.e. 40hz signal and a 47hz signal)  any
>signal below 100hz and the carrier offset also - One for the right and one
>for the left, then go for it - that's all you need.
>
>
>
>Drew
>
>
>
>s----- Original Message -----
>From: Ivan Shiyan <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 10:52 AM
>Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
>
>
>> I didn't get the point:
>> why do you need this electronic equipment,
>> why not to create a sine wave in any sound editor (say, CoolEdit)?
>>
>> Ivan
>>
>> Drew Pierson wrote:
>> >
>> > Ask them if you can run a 1/8" jack out of it to the mic input of the
>> > computer.  Otherwise you will have to record onto another medium
>depending
>> > on the output modality.  And then transfer it to the computer.....
>> >
>> > Drew
>> >
>> > ----------
>> > >From: [email protected]
>> > >To: [email protected]
>> > >Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
>> > >Date: Fri, Aug 27, 1999, 7:20 PM
>> > >
>> >
>> > > Thanks I finally found it.
>> > > But does a device like this attach to your computer or to something
>else?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > >
>> > > Chris
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > >
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Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew

One thing you can do with cooledit is paste special.
You can take a .wav file and paste it onto the
entrainment file.  For example, you could record some
affirmations and combine them with the binaural beats.
 I've never done this, but I know cooledit can do it.
I think you could do this in bwg, sort of, by
recording a .wav file and importing it as a
background.
--- [email protected] wrote:
> So what's the diff b/w cool edit's features and
> brainwave generator?
> Seems BWG is easier to program and you can control
> more parameters
> easily.
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Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew

I've done that, taking 15 seconds of a subliminal training tape and
using it as a background. I still don't see what advantages cool edit
has over BWG.
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999 01:25:23 +0300 (EET DST), you wrote:
>One thing you can do with cooledit is paste special.
>
>You can take a .wav file and paste it onto the
>entrainment file.  For example, you could record some
>affirmations and combine them with the binaural beats.
> I've never done this, but I know cooledit can do it.
>
>I think you could do this in bwg, sort of, by
>recording a .wav file and importing it as a
>background.
>
>--- [email protected] wrote:
>> So what's the diff b/w cool edit's features and
>> brainwave generator?
>> Seems BWG is easier to program and you can control
>> more parameters
>> easily.
>
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About Cool Edit Brainwave Synchronization...

This is kinda long, sorry about that.
Cool Edit Brainwave Synchronization In Detail (Excerpt from the CoolEdit Manual)
ABOUT BRAINWAVE FILES
The wave option works like many meditation tapes and light/sound devices on the
market, which range in price from $200 to $500.  There are even boards available
with plug in glasses (which have blinking lights) for your PC in the price range
of $495.  The files created using the 'Wave' transformation are even more
powerful, and are definitely more pleasing to the ears.  Most other devices and
tapes have a "humming" sound or some other tones to induce the right brainwave
frequencies.  This program allows you to use ANY sound to encode the frequencies
with.  The most effective we have found are by using the Noise Generator, which
creates pleasing waterfall like sounds.  This function only works on stereo
waveforms, and the effects work if only if listened to with stereo headphones.
Listening to sounds that have been waved for periods of 5 minutes or more will
produce the desired state of awareness in the listener.  Sessions of 25 minutes
or so work really well!  After being "sync'd in" for 10 minutes or so, changes
in patterns can be programmed more quickly, and the brain will respond
accordingly.
Major brainwave pattern frequencies and possible uses for brainwave
synchronization
Delta	1-3 hz	Deep sleep, lucid dreaming, increased immune functions.
Theta	4-7 hz	Deep relaxation, meditation, increased memory and focus.
Alpha	8-12 hz	Light relaxation, "superlearning", positive thinking.
Beta	13-25 hz	Normal state of alertness, stress and anxiety.
Gamma	30 hz on up	Hyper-awareness???
High Gamma	200+ hz	Not sure exactly what these do...
Immediate Relaxation and Stress Relief - Choose between 5hz and 10 hz for
different levels of relaxation.
Meditation - Choose between 4hz and 7hz, either cycle between a few, or stay at
a particular frequency for different results.
Sleep Replacement - A 30 minute session at 5Hz replaces about 2-3 hours of
sleep, allowing one to wake up in the morning more refreshed.  Try listening 1/2
hour before waking up in the morning, or 1/2 hour before going to bed.
Improved Sleeping Patterns - Any of the Alpha and Theta frequencies (8Hz to 4Hz)
for 30-45 minute sessions at the same time each day.
Treatment of Insomnia - Choose between 4hz and 6hz for starters (the first 10
minutes), then go into frequencies below 3.5hz (for 20-30 minutes), settling on
about 2.5hz before fading out.
Improved and Lasting Sense of Well Being - Try Theta (4Hz to 7Hz) for 45
minutes, daily.
Creative Visualization - About 6hz for a while, then up to 10hz works well while
using visualization techniques.
Alleviation of Migraines and Headaches - Experiment with Alpha and Theta
combinations.  Try and visualize the pain getting smaller and smaller until it
disappears.
Reduction of Depression Symptoms - Again, Alpha and Theta combinations, mostly
theta(?)
Self Hypnosis - Choose about 8hz to 10hz while playing any self-hypnosis tape,
or guided meditation.
Accelerated Learning - Choose about 7hz to 9hz while playing any learning tapes,
like foreign language tapes, etc. to increase comprehension.  Also, while
studying, take breaks every half hour and listen to 10 minutes of Alpha (10Hz)
while reflecting on the material you just learned.
Subliminal Programming - Choose 5hz to 7hz while playing your favorite
subliminal tapes, or make your
own by recording some affirmations, and mix pasting (Edit:Paste Special) them
from the clipboard at barely audible volumes.
Improve Intuition (or ESP?) - Theta frequencies help in this area, 4hz to 7hz.
Reaching Higher States of Consciousness - Theta again, with daily half hour
minimum sessions.  Give at least a month for results.
Quick Refresher on long days - Low Alpha 8hz to 10hz for about 15 minutes works
well.  Sort of induces a cat-nap.
Increased Immune System - Relaxing to Alpha and Theta combinations daily.
Learning how to relax, and relaxing more often can lower blood pressure and
increase the body's natural defenses.  Using Alpha Synchronization (8Hz to
12Hz), expect similar increases in the neuro-chemical levels of Norepinephrin
(11%), Serotonin (21%) and Beta-Endorphins (25%).
DISCLAIMER
By using this program, you agree that the author will not be responsible for any
damage as a result, direct or indirect, of using this program.  The author makes
no claims about the effectiveness of these sounds for any particular purpose.
The user is encouraged to do his/her own research into the area of brainwave
synchronization via auditory stimulation.
WARNING
Sounds generated by the wave function may not suitable for epileptics or persons
undergoing psychiatric treatment.
ABOUT CARRIER WAVES
A carrier wave is needed to transport the brainwave frequencies.  Because the
carrier wave is not what you hear through the headphones directly, you do not
need to buy super high-end headphones (5Hz-25KHz) to reproduce the effects.
These sounds may be recorded using any stereo cassette recorder and played back
on any stereo cassette player without losing effectiveness.  In other words,
your headphones do not need to be able to reproduce a 5Hz signal if you are
generating a 5Hz theta-frequency brainwave file, and your tape deck does not
need to be able to record frequencies this low either.  The brain does however
respond better to the lower frequencies because of the nature of the
synchronization algorithm, so the better the headphones you buy, the more
dramatic the results may be.  The best headphones are the kind that cover the
entire ear, so outside noise does not get in.  Plus, these headphones have much
higher response to low frequencies.  The active ingredient, so to speak, are the
frequencies from about 40Hz up to about 2khz depending on the frequency being
encoded and the intensity.
Carrier waves must have some correlation between the left and right channels, no
matter how slight.  So mono (total correlation), inverse (total negative
correlation), and spatial (natural recordings that have some of the same sounds
coming in both channels) will work great.
The best sounds to use as carriers are sounds that are spread across the entire
frequency range, or at least most of the lower frequency range.  Good examples
are ocean, waterfall (most any recordings from nature), and noise generated by
this program.  Experiment with mono (both left and right channels the same),
inverted (like mono, but the left channel is the inverse of the right, obtained
by using the Channel Mixer), and spatial stereo (spatially encoded sounds in
nature, recorded with microphones about 9 inches apart to simulate separation
between the ears).  But don't let this stop you from digitizing your favorite
music, and using it as a carrier, or converting your favorite to a mono or
inverted wave.
To generate a carrier wave, you can do three things:
Record a sample - Once recorded, use the Channel Mixer to create a mono, or
inversed wave.  The channel mixer will also allow you to put in just the amount
of correlation you desire (for example, a 20% mixture of both channels, leaving
the rest untouched.)  Or just leave it the way it was recorded.  You may find
changes in effectiveness of the brainwave files depending on how you use the
Channel Mixer.  Keep in mind that this function only operates on stereo waves,
so when "mono" is mentioned, it means that the exact same signal is present on
both channels--the left channel and right channel are the same.
Generate Tones - You may use the Generate Tones function to find a pleasing,
relaxing tone for the background (but we find "noise" sounds more relaxing).
The way tones work the best is if the left channel's tone frequency is 5-6 Hz
different from the right channel's tone.  This creates a beat pattern equal to
the frequency difference, which the brain responds to somewhat (this is the
property that many theta-inducers rely on).  To do this, generate one tone with
left volume at 40, and right volume at zero.  Then generate the second tone with
the left and right volumes reversed.  Finally, Paste Special (with overlap) one
tone on top of the other.  Use low frequency tones, like 50Hz to 120Hz for best
results.  These tones, by themselves, will help coerce the mind into the state
associated with the difference between the frequencies.  For example, for a
theta state of 6Hz, use a 70Hz and a 76Hz tone.  Combining this tones sample
with an existing brainwave file, by overlap pasting at a quiet volume (20%) is
even more effective.
Generate Noise - Use the Generate Noise function (pink and brown work best) in
any of the modes: mono, inverse, or spatial stereo (independent channels noise
will not work as a carrier for brainwave frequencies at all, since there is no
correlation between the left and right channels).  Using pink noise in spatial
stereo, and running it through the Quick Filter to get rid off some of the
"edge" if any works the best. Inverse works quite well too, but the brainwave
"effect" is more pronounced, and can be distracting, and some sound boards have
trouble reproducing sound that is inversed between channels.
Once you have found a pleasing sound, about 10 seconds or so of a monotonous
sound (tones, river, waterfall, noise...) you're ready to start.  If a
monotonous sound is used, more disk space can be saved because we will use the
play list to repeat portions.  If a music sample were used, it is quite
noticeable that the same 10-second piece is being played over and over and over
again.
If you're curious you can also spatially locate a mono sound to the left or
right.  Do this if you wish to have the illusion that a particular sound is
coming from one side or the other.  The function works by pasting a mono sound
sample into a stereo waveform, and using the Digital Delay function.  Having a
quiet "ping" (generated by using the sine wave tone generator with the bell
curve envelope) play spatially on the left, then on the right at about 5 second
intervals is very relaxing.
ENCODING BRAINWAVE INFORMATION
There are two types of brainwave files that you can create:  A flat file, and a
cued file.  The flat file takes more memory, and plays straight through from
beginning to end, while the cued file is actually contains pieces of the entire
audio program, that when played in the proper order become the brainwave file.
The cued file takes less memory, and can very quickly be modified at any time by
re-arranging the audio pieces.  The average length of a cued file is about 3-4
minutes for a program that can last as long as desired.  The flat file is a
standard wave file, which means to create a long program, you must have enough
space for it.  The only advantage to using a flat file is if you are waving
music, since music cannot be split into pieces and rearranged, otherwise it
would sound discontinuous.  Creating brainwave files using the flat file method
will be discussed first, since it is more straightforward.
Flat Brainwave File Generation
Create a file the length you wish to make your relaxation program using the
carrier wave(s) of your choice.  Either record music, or use the pink noise
generator and copy and paste (or Paste Special) to the desired length.  If you
are using a monotonous sound, you would be better off using the cued file
method.  Lengths of good relaxation programs vary from 15 to 30 minutes, and
beyond.  This means you must have enough hard drive space for the entire file.
Since the temporary file takes up hard drive space as well, the maximum size of
file you can create, and be able to save, will be one that takes up half of the
initial free hard drive space.
Use the Wave function to encode the brainwave patterns into the carrier wave by
highlighting a section of the wave, or the whole thing, and choosing
Transform:Wave, or click the wave icon.  With the wave transformation, you have
complete control over the brainwave frequency being encoded, the strength of the
signal, and the positioning of the signal left or right.  Over the selection
highlighted, the intensity, and position remain constant, but the frequency can
be varied using the graphical input control.  See the section on Authoring
Brainwave Files to learn what settings to use for the Wave function, and how to
build effective files.
Once the entire file has been waved to your satisfaction, you can save the file
if you wish, and play it using the Play button.  An interesting side effect is
that different sounds are heard if you listen to one channel, listen to both
channels with one ear, or listen to each channel with each ear.
Cued Brainwave File Generation
These files contain many short snippets of brainwave encodings at different
frequencies.  Each snippet is cued using the Cue List, and a Play List is
generated by adding entries from the Cue List, and looping them if necessary.
To listen to a cued brainwave file, you must use the Play button in the Play
List dialog box.
First you must figure out how you want to divide up the brainwave program (your
20-30 minute masterpiece) into components.  For example, you may want to have
patterns of 5Hz, 7Hz, and 9Hz at different points in the program.  In this case,
you will need at least three pieces for your creation.  The actual file will
just be 10 seconds of carrier wave at 5Hz, followed by 10 seconds at 7hz,
followed by 10 seconds at 9Hz.  All the pieces are placed in the cue list by
highlighting the piece, and choosing Add.  It is best to add the piece to the
cue list once it is created, or pasted at the end of the current waveform.  To
create the final program, the pieces are added to the Play List in the order you
wish to listen to them.  Each piece can be looped if needed.  So a
20 minute program can be generated from 3 10-second pieces by adding the cues to
the play list and looping.
First you need to create 10 to 20 seconds of carrier wave, and save in a special
file in case you need the carrier wave again later.  Highlight the wave, and
Edit:Copy.  When you need another copy of the initial carrier wave, you need
only to Paste it.
Add the first carrier wave snippet to the Cue List by pressing the Add button in
the Cue List dialog.  Give the cue for this snippet a name that reflects the
waveform transformation you will be using, for example, "6Hz to 5Hz drop".
Use the Wave function to encode the proper patterns into the carrier wave.  Look
at the section on Authoring Brainwave Files to learn what settings to choose.
Click past the end of the wave file (make sure the rightmost part of the file is
in view), and choose Paste to insert another copy of the carrier wave.  Once you
do this, you can add the newly inserted selection to the cue list, and give it a
name.  Repeat the step above for creating a brainwave encoding over the carrier
wave you just inserted.  Do this as many times as needed until you have all the
pieces you need to build the final brainwave file.
Once all the pieces have been generated, add them in the order you like to the
play list.  To make pieces last longer (if the beginning and ending of the piece
are at the same brainwave frequency), increase the number of loops for that
entry in the play list.
When Played from the play list, the pieces will be played in the order shown,
and looped if necessary.
To get familiar with the cue list, and play list, open one of your favorite wave
files, and highlight sections then add them to the cue list.  After you have a
few selections in the cue list, add them to the play list, and choose a loop
count of greater than one for some of them.  Choose Play from the play list, and
listen to what you've just created.
Authoring Brainwave Files
After learning about carrier waves, and encoding procedures, all you need to
know is what frequencies to use, and when to use them during the course of the
listening session.  Once you know what frequencies to use, and at what
intensity, you can generate the completed file using either of the methods
above.
Effective brainwave files have some sort of encoding going on the entire length
of the session.  For the first 3 minutes or so of the session, the listener will
not be in a "relaxed" state, and will not respond greatly to the frequencies
being presented.  During this warm-up period, gradually decreasing from about
12Hz down to 8Hz works nicely.  After about 4 minutes, the listener's brainwave
patterns will start to synchronize with the patterns in the headphones, and the
serious brainwave programming can begin.
Frequencies of 8-10Hz correspond to an alpha state -- light relaxation, like a
quick afternoon siesta.  Frequencies of 6-7Hz correspond to a theta state --
meditation.  4-5Hz correspond to deep relaxation.  You can create a session that
is constant, in one of these states, or create a session that dynamically flows
from one to the other.  When going down in frequency, give the listener about
one minute to catch up, and stay in sync with the wave.  Going up in frequency
does not require the listener to catch up.  In other words, if you go from 6Hz
down to 4Hz over a 20 second timespan, and hold at 4Hz, the listener may not be
at 4Hz for another minute.  When going from 4Hz to 8Hz in 20 seconds, the
listener will be at 8Hz at the end of the 20 seconds.  It appears to take extra
time when going down in frequency, but no extra time when going up.  This
basically holds true for the first 20-30 minutes of a session.  After that, the
opposite tends to occur.  It is easier to go lower than go higher.  This means
that to bring a listener from 4Hz (where she has been for the last 30 minutes)
up to 12 Hz, it should be done over a 5 minute period or so.  One nice trick to
do is to keep the listener at around 4-5 Hz for a while, then about once every 2
minutes, go up to 8Hz and back over a 20 second span.  This will alert the
listener slightly, and make them aware for a few seconds of what they are
thinking.  This is great for getting creative insights and the like.  It acts as
a sort of window to the subconscious, allowing one to remember what is going on.
It's kind of like remembering dreams:  you do it better if you are awaken in the
middle of one.
Another effective method of producing relaxation files is to overlap them.  That
is, have portions that are one frequency, and slightly spatially located to one
side overlapped with a slightly differing frequency spatially located slightly
to the other side.  This gives the listener the chance to decide which frequency
to be at, and gives them more freedom over the experience.  For example, a
session could go from 8Hz to 4Hz over 10 minutes overlapped with 7Hz to 5Hz over
the same 10 minutes.
For nice super-relaxing effects, generate panning waves (frequencies of 0.05 to
0.2) over your session after encoding the initial brainwave patterns.  For
example, if you are generating a brainwave file out of 20-second pieces, after
generating the main brainwave frequency over the 20 second period, generate a
panning wave of 0.05 or 0.1 (which means a period of 20 or 10 seconds) with an
intensity of about 50 or so.  This will make the sound appear to shift left and
right to the listener over a 20 or 10 second period.  Now, overlapping a
24-second piece panned at 0.125 (8 second period) at 5Hz with a 0.167 (6 second
period) at 6Hz will combine the
practices of multiple frequencies with panning for an extremely super-natural
effect!
Once you get started creating a few files, and see what the different frequency
ranges do, you will become familiar with the different effects and how to
generate just the effects you want.
High Gamma frequencies of 200Hz or more seem to help in relaxation, and do
something no doubt.  This is an area you can experiment with.  When generating
frequencies above 40Hz or so, it is best to keep the intensity very low, like 7
or 8.  The higher the frequency, the lower the intensity has to be, otherwise
the encoding will overwrite itself and the signal will be lost.
Sample Theta File - Step-by-Step
1	Create a new blank file with File:New.  Choose a Stereo file, either 8
or 16 bit and a 11025, 22050, or 44100 sampling rate.  The final file size will
be one of the following sizes listed below depending on your choice:
			11025		22050		44100
		8-bit	2.6M		5.2M		10.5M
		16-bit	5.2M		10.5M		21.2M
	You must make sure you have enough memory for a file of this size, plus
an additional meg for working space.  If you plan on saving the file when you
are done, you must have at least twice this amount of hard drive space
available, since a temporary file is used instead of memory while working on the
wave.
2	Choose Generate:Noise.  Select Pink,  Spatial Stereo (500 ?Seconds) for
15 seconds at an intensity of  3 .  This is usually the longest portion of the
generation of brainwave files.  Because of this, it is advised that you save
this piece of noise so that in generating future files, you can just load in
this pre-calculated noise as a starting point.
3	Choose Edit:Copy.  From now on, we will paste the noise in when we need
it!
4	 Make sure the noise is highlighted.  If it is not, select all by
double-clicking on the waveform until it is highlighted.
5	Choose Add in the Cue list, and give the entry a Label of 10Hz to 8Hz,
and a Description of  "Warm-Up"
6	Choose Transform:Wave to bring up the brainwave dialog box.  Enter 10
for the Highest Frequency, and 8 for the Lowest Frequency, and an Intensity of
35. On the graph above, click the leftmost dot, and drag it to the top of the
graph.  Click the rightmost dot, and drag it to the bottom of the graph.  This
will product a frequency encoded at 10Hz at the beginning, and glide down to 8Hz
by the end.  Choose OK to generate the encoding.  This shouldn't take nearly as
long as it did to generate the noise.
7	Click the mouse at the rightmost portion of the wave (just beyond the
black waveform display area).  When you do this, the yellow cursor arrows should
be all the way to the right of the wave. You must always add new pattern blocks
at the end of the current waveform.
8	Choose Edit:Paste to insert another copy of the original noise that we
had copied originally.
9	Create the following pattern blocks as before (following the steps 5 to
8) , except with the following values for the cue list and waveform
transformation:
	Label 	Description 	Hi Freq.	Lo Freq.	Intensity
	(Graph should go from left=highest  to right=lowest)
	8 Hz 	Alpha 	8        	8 	37 		
	8 to 6Hz	Glide Down 	8     	6 	38
	6Hz 	High Theta 	6      	6 	40
	6 to 5Hz	Deeper Theta	6      	5 	45
	5Hz 	Theta 	5        	5 	50
	(Graph should look like an upside-down "V" for Spike)
	5-8-5 	Spike	8	5 	50
	(Graph should go from left=lowest to right=highest for Awake)
	5 to 12Hz 	Awake 	12  	5	40
10 	Once all the blocks are generated, and in the cue list, Add the pieces
to the play list by selecting the wave portion in the cue list and clicking Add
in the play list. Select the pieces listed below in the order given.  After
doing so, select each item in the play list, and change the Loops for each so
the final play list looks like this:
	 (1)	10 to 8Hz
	 (3)	8Hz
	 (1) 	8 to 6Hz
	 (7)	6Hz
	 (1) 	6 to 5Hz
	 (18) 	5Hz
	 (1) 	5-8-5
	 (12) 	5Hz
	 (1) 	5-8-5
	 (12) 	5Hz
	 (1) 	5-8-5
	 (12) 	5Hz
	 (1) 	5-8-5
	 (12) 	5Hz
	 (1) 	5 to 12Hz
	When you choose -Play- from the play list, the sequence will be played
in the order given, looping the number of times specified.  This list gives a 21
minute theta session, with bursts into alpha at four points.
11	If you wish to save this piece, and have enough hard drive space, you
can do it now.  The wave is complete.  Enjoy.
How to use brainwave synchronization files
Once you have created your brainwave file (15 minute files on up work best),
Loop Play them for a longer listening time.  Sessions of 15 minutes or more work
best.  It is best to listen to the sessions lying down in a quiet place where
you will not be disturbed.  If there is no place like this near your PC, it may
be a good idea to record the session on tape and listen to it where you can be
comfortable and relaxed.  When you're fully
comfortable, start the session, close your eyes, and let the magical sounds from
Cool Edit do the work.  Remember, this only works if you listen to the sounds
with stereo headphones.
You may notice helicopter, or "washing" type noises moving around in your head.
These sounds are actually created inside your head, and are not coming directly
out of either channel from the sound board.  It is this noise that is doing the
work of helping your brainwaves get synchronized to the patterns you have
chosen.  When you have mixed two different (but similar in frequency ranges)
brainwave files together, you may notice a jet airplane noise moving slowly from
left to right in the background.  Some people don't hear these artifacts at all,
while others hear them extremely well.
Another side effect is that of a wandering mind.  When you use frequencies under
8hz, you may find yourself thinking of the strangest things.  You may find that
you are not thinking of anything in particular, and your thoughts become very
interesting.  The feeling is also "warm" and "happy" for some people.  Others
start recalling their favorite memories as a child, even some they thought they
had forgotten forever!\par\par
After a session of 15 minutes or more, you may feel quite refreshed, light,
airy, clear-headed, etc.  Some claim that doing this for 30 minutes a day can
result in subtle but great changes in your life.  ESP experiences increase, and
you may be able to reach new levels of awareness in your everyday life.
Rollie Nepomuceno
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 8:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
I've done that, taking 15 seconds of a subliminal training tape and
using it as a background. I still don't see what advantages cool edit
has over BWG.
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999 01:25:23 +0300 (EET DST), you wrote:
>One thing you can do with cooledit is paste special.
>
>You can take a .wav file and paste it onto the
>entrainment file.  For example, you could record some
>affirmations and combine them with the binaural beats.
> I've never done this, but I know cooledit can do it.
>
>I think you could do this in bwg, sort of, by
>recording a .wav file and importing it as a
>background.
>
>--- [email protected] wrote:
>> So what's the diff b/w cool edit's features and
>> brainwave generator?
>> Seems BWG is easier to program and you can control
>> more parameters
>> easily.
>
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Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies

Hi,
> Hey, If Cool Edit can produce a (i.e. 40hz signal and a 47hz signal)  any
> signal below 100hz and the carrier offset also - One for the right and one
> for the left, then go for it - that's all you need.
There is no limit as to how low BrainWave Generator (or CoolEdit) can
go in generating frequencies. If you set BrainWave Generator for a zero
binaural beat frequency and 1 Hz Audible Pitch, it will generate a
1 Hz tone for you.
The limits are imposed by sound-card hardware, and most of all by the
earphones. I just tried generating low frequencies with my SoundBlaster
sound-card, and it reproduced them nicely down to about 30Hz (checked
with an external oscilloscope). I didn't have any good enough earphones
to listen to these, though. It may also be very difficult to check
whether your earphones reproduce this low frequencies, because human
ear does not (consciously anyway) hear so low frequencies.
-- 
Mikko Noromaa ([email protected])
Noromaa Solutions - see http://www.bwgen.com

Re: About Cool Edit Brainwave Synchronization...

Hello all,
Greetings from France,
Can you send (or resend, sorry if I missed) the url
for cooledit ?
I read Megabrain in 1986 and had one of the gizmos
built according to my specs by a friend.
The cost was about 12 $.
It was in a big matchbox, using a square-waves
generator (5 $ component), with two buttons :
- intensity (lower is better)
- frequency (0 to 10 Hz)
It worked fine.
Now, would anyone of you advise me of what is the best
commercil equipment and where to buy it online ?
Froggy Jacques
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http://www.multimania.com/jdsetls/MHR/html/lois_et_proverbes.html
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Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew

At 12:41 AM 9/8/99 +0300, you wrote:
>So what's the diff b/w cool edit's features and brainwave generator?
>Seems BWG is easier to program and you can control more parameters
>easily.
>On Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:46:26 +0300 (EET DST), you wrote:
>
The BWGEN & CoolEdit have very different styles of Brainwave Entrainment.
BWGEN, uses two different frequencies, one presented to each ear via
headphones, to create a difference frequency (binaural beat).
CoolEdit uses a very different technique:
"The Wave function (in CoolEdit) spatially locates the audio left and right,
in a circular pattern over time."
The greatest advantage of the CoolEdit technique is that it can be used on
ANY stereo wav file(provided that there is some information incommon between
both left and right channels).  That is, one can take a track of music or a
sound effect bed texture and apply the Wave function to it an cause it to
entrain brainwaves at the desired frequency.  One can also, via the graphic
parameter control, have the brainwave frequency change over time.  One could
take a 25 minute piece of music and have the CoolEdit Wave function impress
upon that music an entrainment profile that starts at 16Hz for the first 5
minutes, gradually swoops down to 8HZ over 5 minutes, holds there for 10
minutes then slopes back up to 12Hz over the remaining 5 minutes.
I have found no information as to whether the CoolEdit technique is any more
or less effective than tradition binaural beats (BWGEN).  If any one has any
experiential or clinical info on the difference between these two
techniques, please let me know.
Dave
>>Cool Edit also has a special Brainwave Synchronizer feature, please read below
>>for details:  
>>
>>With the Brainwave Synchronizer (/Transform/Special menu), you can modify
stereo
>>files to produce sounds that when listened to with stereo headphones can
put the
>>listener into any desired state of awareness.  For example, by listening to
>>waved files, you can easily achieve states such as deep sleep, theta
meditation,
>>or alpha relaxation.  Because of the nature of this function, it only works on
>>Stereo waveform data, and to be effective, must be listened to with stereo
>>headphones.  The Wave function spatially locates the audio left and right,
in a
>>circular pattern over time.  In order to spatially encode the signal,
either the
>>left or right channel is delayed so that the sounds will appear at each ear at
>>different times, tricking the brain into thinking they are coming from either
>>side.  When this is done at frequencies of 3Hz and above, the brain will start
>>synchronizing at the same frequency, increasing its output of Delta, Theta,
>>Alpha, or Beta frequencies.
>>
>>Rollie 
>>==========================================
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>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Drew Pierson [mailto:[email protected]]
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:51 AM
>>To: [email protected]
>>Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
>>
>>
>>Hey, If Cool Edit can produce a (i.e. 40hz signal and a 47hz signal)  any
>>signal below 100hz and the carrier offset also - One for the right and one
>>for the left, then go for it - that's all you need.
>>
>>
>>
>>Drew
>>
>>
>>
>>s----- Original Message -----
>>From: Ivan Shiyan <[email protected]>
>>To: <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 10:52 AM
>>Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
>>
>>
>>> I didn't get the point:
>>> why do you need this electronic equipment,
>>> why not to create a sine wave in any sound editor (say, CoolEdit)?
>>>
>>> Ivan
>>>
>>> Drew Pierson wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Ask them if you can run a 1/8" jack out of it to the mic input of the
>>> > computer.  Otherwise you will have to record onto another medium
>>depending
>>> > on the output modality.  And then transfer it to the computer.....
>>> >
>>> > Drew
>>> >
>>> > ----------
>>> > >From: [email protected]
>>> > >To: [email protected]
>>> > >Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
>>> > >Date: Fri, Aug 27, 1999, 7:20 PM
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > > Thanks I finally found it.
>>> > > But does a device like this attach to your computer or to something
>>else?
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks,
>>> > >
>>> > > Chris
>>> > >
>>> > >
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>>> > >
>>>
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Re: About Cool Edit Brainwave Synchronization...

Well, CoolEdit is a software, not a hardware.
This is a general purpose sound editor.
Check http://www.syntrillium.com for details.
Ivan
Jacques de Schryver et Linda Steven wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Greetings from France,
> 
> Can you send (or resend, sorry if I missed) the url
> for cooledit ?
> 
> I read Megabrain in 1986 and had one of the gizmos
> built according to my specs by a friend.
> 
> The cost was about 12 $.
> 
> It was in a big matchbox, using a square-waves
> generator (5 $ component), with two buttons :
> 
> - intensity (lower is better)
> - frequency (0 to 10 Hz)
> 
> It worked fine.
> 
> Now, would anyone of you advise me of what is the best
> commercil equipment and where to buy it online ?
> 
> Froggy Jacques
>

Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew

[email protected] wrote:
> 
> I've done that, taking 15 seconds of a subliminal training tape and
> using it as a background. I still don't see what advantages cool edit
> has over BWG.
There's only slight difference in respect to brainwaves.
I would say it's a matter of preference.
Bwgen is lightweight, simple to operate and I like it.
Cooledit is bulky, much more complicated, and contains lots
of features you'll never need. But it allows to use a stereo wave
file as a carrier instead of only a tone. You can grab a track
from you favorite CD, load it into cooledit and encode it with
a brainwave frequency.
There's a MindSync program, which appears to be freeware. It
looks like a cut-down version of cooledit. You can check it at
http://www.nlpinfo.com/, click on 'MindSync' button.
Or download zip file directly:
http://www.nlpinfo.com/Winsyn.zip
Ivan

SilentSound(tm)

Hi all,
I've looked at SilentSound(tm) site
http://www.tera-link.com/web/ssst/main.htm
and just curious:
Is it possible to create such effect in bwgen or in sound editor?
What carrier frequencies do they use?
They also mention 42 EEG emotion patterns. Does anybody
have any concrete data?
Has anybody tried to create Tomatis-like sounds by
cutting off low frequencies from music or speech?
Ivan

Re: SilentSound(tm)

Hi all,
I've looked at SilentSound(tm) site
http://www.tera-link.com/web/ssst/main.htm
and just curious:
Is it possible to create such effect in bwgen or in sound editor?
Ivan wrote:
>What carrier frequencies do they use?
>They also mention 42 EEG emotion patterns. Does anybody
>have any concrete data?
>Has anybody tried to create Tomatis-like sounds by
>cutting off low frequencies from music or speech?
Interesting idea Ivan.  I was wondering the same thing myself.
Thanks,
Chris

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Your experience?

Hello,,can anyone relay what brainwave has done for them,,does it lift you
when your tired,,relax you when your tense/anxious? Where's a good site to
get more of the .bwg sound files? Thank you for your response!  Dave
[email protected]

Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew

It was my understanding that for binaural beats to work the two frequencies
need to be presented separately to each ear, so I have always been a little
confused how open air systems entrain brainwaves.
Since the thalamus is a primary generator of cortical brainwaves and also
the switching station mediating auditory stimulation to the cortex perhaps
open air systems are taping into a different but related effect?  Drumming
certainly entrains brainwaves without isolating beats.
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: David Meschter <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
> At 12:41 AM 9/8/99 +0300, you wrote:
> >So what's the diff b/w cool edit's features and brainwave generator?
> >Seems BWG is easier to program and you can control more parameters
> >easily.
> >On Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:46:26 +0300 (EET DST), you wrote:
> >
>
> The BWGEN & CoolEdit have very different styles of Brainwave Entrainment.
> BWGEN, uses two different frequencies, one presented to each ear via
> headphones, to create a difference frequency (binaural beat).
>
> CoolEdit uses a very different technique:
> "The Wave function (in CoolEdit) spatially locates the audio left and
right,
> in a circular pattern over time."
>
> The greatest advantage of the CoolEdit technique is that it can be used on
> ANY stereo wav file(provided that there is some information incommon
between
> both left and right channels).  That is, one can take a track of music or
a
> sound effect bed texture and apply the Wave function to it an cause it to
> entrain brainwaves at the desired frequency.  One can also, via the
graphic
> parameter control, have the brainwave frequency change over time.  One
could
> take a 25 minute piece of music and have the CoolEdit Wave function
impress
> upon that music an entrainment profile that starts at 16Hz for the first 5
> minutes, gradually swoops down to 8HZ over 5 minutes, holds there for 10
> minutes then slopes back up to 12Hz over the remaining 5 minutes.
>
> I have found no information as to whether the CoolEdit technique is any
more
> or less effective than tradition binaural beats (BWGEN).  If any one has
any
> experiential or clinical info on the difference between these two
> techniques, please let me know.
>
> Dave
>
>
> >>Cool Edit also has a special Brainwave Synchronizer feature, please read
below
> >>for details:
> >>
> >>With the Brainwave Synchronizer (/Transform/Special menu), you can
modify
> stereo
> >>files to produce sounds that when listened to with stereo headphones can
> put the
> >>listener into any desired state of awareness.  For example, by listening
to
> >>waved files, you can easily achieve states such as deep sleep, theta
> meditation,
> >>or alpha relaxation.  Because of the nature of this function, it only
works on
> >>Stereo waveform data, and to be effective, must be listened to with
stereo
> >>headphones.  The Wave function spatially locates the audio left and
right,
> in a
> >>circular pattern over time.  In order to spatially encode the signal,
> either the
> >>left or right channel is delayed so that the sounds will appear at each
ear at
> >>different times, tricking the brain into thinking they are coming from
either
> >>side.  When this is done at frequencies of 3Hz and above, the brain will
start
> >>synchronizing at the same frequency, increasing its output of Delta,
Theta,
> >>Alpha, or Beta frequencies.
> >>
> >>Rollie
> >>==========================================
> >>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Drew Pierson [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:51 AM
> >>To: [email protected]
> >>Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
> >>
> >>
> >>Hey, If Cool Edit can produce a (i.e. 40hz signal and a 47hz signal)
any
> >>signal below 100hz and the carrier offset also - One for the right and
one
> >>for the left, then go for it - that's all you need.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Drew
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>s----- Original Message -----
> >>From: Ivan Shiyan <[email protected]>
> >>To: <[email protected]>
> >>Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 10:52 AM
> >>Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
> >>
> >>
> >>> I didn't get the point:
> >>> why do you need this electronic equipment,
> >>> why not to create a sine wave in any sound editor (say, CoolEdit)?
> >>>
> >>> Ivan
> >>>
> >>> Drew Pierson wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > Ask them if you can run a 1/8" jack out of it to the mic input of
the
> >>> > computer.  Otherwise you will have to record onto another medium
> >>depending
> >>> > on the output modality.  And then transfer it to the computer.....
> >>> >
> >>> > Drew
> >>> >
> >>> > ----------
> >>> > >From: [email protected]
> >>> > >To: [email protected]
> >>> > >Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks
Drew
> >>> > >Date: Fri, Aug 27, 1999, 7:20 PM
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>> > > Thanks I finally found it.
> >>> > > But does a device like this attach to your computer or to
something
> >>else?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Thanks,
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Chris
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
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> of difference and no difference."  - William James, nitrous oxide, 1882.
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Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew

> I have found no information as to whether the CoolEdit
> technique is any more or less effective than tradition
> binaural beats (BWGEN).  If any one has any experiential or
> clinical info on the difference between these two techniques, >
please let me know.
I began my brainwave self-experimentation with Cool Edit 96 and Cool
Edit Pro, and used it off and on for almost a year before switching to
Brainwave Generator.  Cool Edit proved relaxing and enjoyable, and
while I strongly advocated its use, I never experienced anything
mind-blowing.  I should also mention that I had also begun to study qi
gong a few months prior to my first experience with brainwaving.
In my first session with bwgen, I dipped into a 6 or 7Hz session. 
Within about 15 minutes, I experienced strong chakra, especially in my
"third eye."  This began as a tingling, which evolved into a pressure
concentrated in the center of my forehead.  It grew more and more
pronounced, and I began to feel as though I was tumbling backward. 
The closed-eye visuals I experienced were more distinct, more
interesting, and far clearer with bwgen meditation than they ever were
with Cool Edit.  Since then I've continued with chakra meditation
(with and without binaural beats), and had some very limited OBEs. 
I'm sure the entrainment with Cool Edit helped me on my path, but
seeing as how my very FIRST session with bwgen was so much more
profound--and subsequent sessions have followed suit--I would say that
the methodology behind bwgen is more efficacious.  This is such a
wonderful tool... it helped me to realize just how much more people
are capaable of.
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Re: Your experience?

I have used the Awakened Mind preset.  It definetly, albiet subtly,
alters my 
awareness.  I feel sharper, a little more acute..
Low vibs put me to sleep.. If I do too much then I will find it
difficult to go to sleep later in the evening..
regards.
Don
dave campano wrote:
> 
> Hello,,can anyone relay what brainwave has done for them,,does it lift you
> when your tired,,relax you when your tense/anxious? Where's a good site to
> get more of the .bwg sound files? Thank you for your response!  Dave
> [email protected]
> 
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Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew

I do not believe that "open air" entrainment systems are very effective, or
at least as effective as isolated ear (headphone) systems.  Both BWGEN and
CoolEdit advocate the necessity of headphones.  When binaural beats are
plyed on speakers, the signals create physical beating (sound from both
speakers reaches both ears) that is not nearly as effective as Binaural
Beats in headphones or the crisper driving sound of drumming.  The CoolEdit
"Wave" style when played on speakers mearly creates a distracting phasing or
flanging sound.  The CoolEdit Wave style must be used on stereo sources, but
the information in the two channels cannot be entirely discreet.  That is
that both channels must contain some small amount of sound in common so that
the subtle time shifting between the channels can interact.  Sometimes a
little bit of mono pink noise added to a stereo source can be most effective.
I beleve the CoolEdit Wave style to be as effective as Binaural Beats, but
its creator David Johnston doesn't believe that it works below 3Hz or so,
because it is then perceived as "panning".
Dave
At 01:46 AM 9/9/99 +0300, you wrote:
>It was my understanding that for binaural beats to work the two frequencies
>need to be presented separately to each ear, so I have always been a little
>confused how open air systems entrain brainwaves.
>
>Since the thalamus is a primary generator of cortical brainwaves and also
>the switching station mediating auditory stimulation to the cortex perhaps
>open air systems are taping into a different but related effect?  Drumming
>certainly entrains brainwaves without isolating beats.
>
>Rick
>----- Original Message -----
>From: David Meschter <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 8:12 AM
>Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
>
>
>> At 12:41 AM 9/8/99 +0300, you wrote:
>> >So what's the diff b/w cool edit's features and brainwave generator?
>> >Seems BWG is easier to program and you can control more parameters
>> >easily.
>> >On Tue, 7 Sep 1999 10:46:26 +0300 (EET DST), you wrote:
>> >
>>
>> The BWGEN & CoolEdit have very different styles of Brainwave Entrainment.
>> BWGEN, uses two different frequencies, one presented to each ear via
>> headphones, to create a difference frequency (binaural beat).
>>
>> CoolEdit uses a very different technique:
>> "The Wave function (in CoolEdit) spatially locates the audio left and
>right,
>> in a circular pattern over time."
>>
>> The greatest advantage of the CoolEdit technique is that it can be used on
>> ANY stereo wav file(provided that there is some information incommon
>between
>> both left and right channels).  That is, one can take a track of music or
>a
>> sound effect bed texture and apply the Wave function to it an cause it to
>> entrain brainwaves at the desired frequency.  One can also, via the
>graphic
>> parameter control, have the brainwave frequency change over time.  One
>could
>> take a 25 minute piece of music and have the CoolEdit Wave function
>impress
>> upon that music an entrainment profile that starts at 16Hz for the first 5
>> minutes, gradually swoops down to 8HZ over 5 minutes, holds there for 10
>> minutes then slopes back up to 12Hz over the remaining 5 minutes.
>>
>> I have found no information as to whether the CoolEdit technique is any
>more
>> or less effective than tradition binaural beats (BWGEN).  If any one has
>any
>> experiential or clinical info on the difference between these two
>> techniques, please let me know.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> >>Cool Edit also has a special Brainwave Synchronizer feature, please read
>below
>> >>for details:
>> >>
>> >>With the Brainwave Synchronizer (/Transform/Special menu), you can
>modify
>> stereo
>> >>files to produce sounds that when listened to with stereo headphones can
>> put the
>> >>listener into any desired state of awareness.  For example, by listening
>to
>> >>waved files, you can easily achieve states such as deep sleep, theta
>> meditation,
>> >>or alpha relaxation.  Because of the nature of this function, it only
>works on
>> >>Stereo waveform data, and to be effective, must be listened to with
>stereo
>> >>headphones.  The Wave function spatially locates the audio left and
>right,
>> in a
>> >>circular pattern over time.  In order to spatially encode the signal,
>> either the
>> >>left or right channel is delayed so that the sounds will appear at each
>ear at
>> >>different times, tricking the brain into thinking they are coming from
>either
>> >>side.  When this is done at frequencies of 3Hz and above, the brain will
>start
>> >>synchronizing at the same frequency, increasing its output of Delta,
>Theta,
>> >>Alpha, or Beta frequencies.
>> >>
>> >>Rollie
>> >>==========================================
>> >>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >>From: Drew Pierson [mailto:[email protected]]
>> >>Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 8:51 AM
>> >>To: [email protected]
>> >>Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Hey, If Cool Edit can produce a (i.e. 40hz signal and a 47hz signal)
>any
>> >>signal below 100hz and the carrier offset also - One for the right and
>one
>> >>for the left, then go for it - that's all you need.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Drew
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>s----- Original Message -----
>> >>From: Ivan Shiyan <[email protected]>
>> >>To: <[email protected]>
>> >>Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 10:52 AM
>> >>Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> I didn't get the point:
>> >>> why do you need this electronic equipment,
>> >>> why not to create a sine wave in any sound editor (say, CoolEdit)?
>> >>>
>> >>> Ivan
>> >>>
>> >>> Drew Pierson wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Ask them if you can run a 1/8" jack out of it to the mic input of
>the
>> >>> > computer.  Otherwise you will have to record onto another medium
>> >>depending
>> >>> > on the output modality.  And then transfer it to the computer.....
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Drew
>> >>> >
>> >>> > ----------
>> >>> > >From: [email protected]
>> >>> > >To: [email protected]
>> >>> > >Subject: Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks
>Drew
>> >>> > >Date: Fri, Aug 27, 1999, 7:20 PM
>> >>> > >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > > Thanks I finally found it.
>> >>> > > But does a device like this attach to your computer or to
>something
>> >>else?
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Thanks,
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Chris
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> >
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>word
>> >>> > > "unsubscribe" in the subject. For more information on this list
>and
>> >>> > > the BrainWave Generator software, see http://www.bwgen.com.
>> >>> > >
>> >>>
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>> of difference and no difference."  - William James, nitrous oxide, 1882.
>>
>>
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Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew

I believe that MindSync was David Johnston's first foray into audio
software.  He later when on to create CoolEdit, CoolEdit PRo (64 multitrack)
& others.
CoolEdit uses a very different style of entraining brainwaves as discussed
in recent submissions to this list.
The one thing that CoolEdit can do that BWGEN cannot is to encode an
existing stereo file (a set of tones, your favorite Mozart quartet, Pink
Noise or Pink Floyd, etc.) with the entrainment frequencies of your choosing
The effects arboth subtle and powerful.
Dave
At 10:21 PM 9/8/99 +0300, you wrote:
>[email protected] wrote:
>> 
>> I've done that, taking 15 seconds of a subliminal training tape and
>> using it as a background. I still don't see what advantages cool edit
>> has over BWG.
>
>There's only slight difference in respect to brainwaves.
>I would say it's a matter of preference.
>
>Bwgen is lightweight, simple to operate and I like it.
>
>Cooledit is bulky, much more complicated, and contains lots
>of features you'll never need. But it allows to use a stereo wave
>file as a carrier instead of only a tone. You can grab a track
>from you favorite CD, load it into cooledit and encode it with
>a brainwave frequency.
>
>There's a MindSync program, which appears to be freeware. It
>looks like a cut-down version of cooledit. You can check it at
>http://www.nlpinfo.com/, click on 'MindSync' button.
>Or download zip file directly:
>http://www.nlpinfo.com/Winsyn.zip
>
>Ivan
>
>
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Re: Your experience?

When i first fooled around with BWGEN,  I was really into altered states of 
mind and such, and just played around with the settings, and only making my 
self fall asleep with the deep sleep preset.  About two days later I had 
these horrible tooth aches that were so painful there was nothing i could do 
to ease the pain, and it was a holiday weekend so no dentists around.  I 
rememberd how the BWGEN put me to sleep, and decided to give it a try.  I 
plopped my pillow down next to my computer and hit play... I had some 
definetly wierd experiences.  The pain did go to way, and I did go to sleep.. 
kinda.. it was more I was asleep physically but mentally going... probably 
lucid dreaming.  Everything was vivid and so real when I woke up later I 
thought it was real until I realized what happened.  It was really 
interesting.  I haven't really experienced anything like that since then, but 
I haven't really had the same situation either >;o)

Re: About Cool Edit Brainwave Synchronization...

I downloaded cooledit, tried it, didn't like it. The files to create a
session would take up too much space on the hard drive, and are
difficult for a novice to program. 
The one feature I like is the ability to use pink noise as the carrier
signal instead of sine waves. Could this be a future feature of BWGEN?

Re: Creating Centerpointe "Holosync" frequencies: Thanks Drew

Hi Todd -
Thanx for the input!  I like the CoolEdit effects, but BWGEN feels different.
Good luck with your continuing experiments.
Dave
At 02:44 AM 9/9/99 +0300, you wrote:
>> I have found no information as to whether the CoolEdit
>> technique is any more or less effective than tradition
>> binaural beats (BWGEN).  If any one has any experiential or
>> clinical info on the difference between these two techniques, >
>please let me know.
>
>I began my brainwave self-experimentation with Cool Edit 96 and Cool
>Edit Pro, and used it off and on for almost a year before switching to
>Brainwave Generator.  Cool Edit proved relaxing and enjoyable, and
>while I strongly advocated its use, I never experienced anything
>mind-blowing.  I should also mention that I had also begun to study qi
>gong a few months prior to my first experience with brainwaving.
>
>In my first session with bwgen, I dipped into a 6 or 7Hz session. 
>Within about 15 minutes, I experienced strong chakra, especially in my
>"third eye."  This began as a tingling, which evolved into a pressure
>concentrated in the center of my forehead.  It grew more and more
>pronounced, and I began to feel as though I was tumbling backward. 
>The closed-eye visuals I experienced were more distinct, more
>interesting, and far clearer with bwgen meditation than they ever were
>with Cool Edit.  Since then I've continued with chakra meditation
>(with and without binaural beats), and had some very limited OBEs. 
>I'm sure the entrainment with Cool Edit helped me on my path, but
>seeing as how my very FIRST session with bwgen was so much more
>profound--and subsequent sessions have followed suit--I would say that
>the methodology behind bwgen is more efficacious.  This is such a
>wonderful tool... it helped me to realize just how much more people
>are capaable of.
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Re: SilentSound(tm)

There was a hong kong movie that had a theme on ULF
sounds to do brainwashing. The movie mentioned I think is
Titanic. And the higher powers are involved as you will not
find research on auditory "subliminals" /only visual in academic
psychology research. 
At 10:37 PM 9/8/99 +0300, Ivan Shiyan wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I've looked at SilentSound(tm) site
>http://www.tera-link.com/web/ssst/main.htm
>and just curious:
>
>Is it possible to create such effect in bwgen or in sound editor?
>
>What carrier frequencies do they use?
>
>They also mention 42 EEG emotion patterns. Does anybody
>have any concrete data?
>
>Has anybody tried to create Tomatis-like sounds by
>cutting off low frequencies from music or speech?
>
>Ivan
>
>
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Re: Your experience?

Which bwg preset were you using?
--- [email protected] wrote:
> When i first fooled around with BWGEN,  I was really
> into altered states of 
> mind and such, and just played around with the
> settings, and only making my 
> self fall asleep with the deep sleep preset.  About
> two days later I had 
> these horrible tooth aches that were so painful
> there was nothing i could do 
> to ease the pain, and it was a holiday weekend so no
> dentists around.  I 
> rememberd how the BWGEN put me to sleep, and decided
> to give it a try.  I 
> plopped my pillow down next to my computer and hit
> play... I had some 
> definetly wierd experiences.  The pain did go to
> way, and I did go to sleep.. 
> kinda.. it was more I was asleep physically but
> mentally going... probably 
> lucid dreaming.  Everything was vivid and so real
> when I woke up later I 
> thought it was real until I realized what happened. 
> It was really 
> interesting.  I haven't really experienced anything
> like that since then, but 
> I haven't really had the same situation either >;o)
> 
> 
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Re: Your experience?

In a message dated 9/9/1999 12:09:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:
<< Which bwg preset were you using? >>
I mostly used the Meditation (Deep) preset it really helped ease the pain, 
and I also used the Sleep Induction 2 (From Wide Awake) to put me to sleep.

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you all in as well.
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Re: ICQ active list... theme "consciousness"

Hello Peter,
I do not understand how to apply ICQ list or where to find WWW or something
so can i give me instruction how to apply... sorry about me asking on
computer stuff which i do now know about
Many Thanks
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To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: 10 September 1999 23:23
Subject: Re: ICQ active list... theme "consciousness"
>Hi all,
>
>I generated my own ICQ active list and youre all free to join this one. its
>dealing with consciousness in general and you will need the latest icq
>update to join. i have 6 members so far and would be very apreciated to get
>you all in as well.
>
>Join the list at : 48659904
>
>thx for your attention =)
>
>
>Marc
>
>
>
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Re: ICQ active list... theme "consciousness"

Hi--
Please provide some info on how to get there to join...I have an icq # and
went over there, but tried to look-up #48659904 and was told that there was
no one registered to that number...I couldn't find lists anywhere.  So, if
you could provide instructions or email my ICQ # from there, I would
appreciate it.
Thanks,
Rada
ICQ 40401541

Re: ICQ active list... theme "consciousness"

just open your internet explorer browser (or netscape) and enter the www 
adress i gave in the last mail. download the program there and join the list 
with its number
easy =)
PROTEIN
>From: "skunk" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: ICQ active list... theme "consciousness"
>Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:24:32 +0300 (EET DST)
>
>Hello Peter,
>
>I do not understand how to apply ICQ list or where to find WWW or something
>so can i give me instruction how to apply... sorry about me asking on
>computer stuff which i do now know about
>
>Many Thanks
>
>Skunk
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter Lustig <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>Date: 10 September 1999 23:23
>Subject: Re: ICQ active list... theme "consciousness"
>
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I generated my own ICQ active list and youre all free to join this one. 
>its
> >dealing with consciousness in general and you will need the latest icq
> >update to join. i have 6 members so far and would be very apreciated to 
>get
> >you all in as well.
> >
> >Join the list at : 48659904
> >
> >thx for your attention =)
> >
> >
> >Marc
> >
> >
> >
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Re: ICQ active list... theme "consciousness"

hi rada,
its an icq ACTIVE list. thats one of the new features from icq99b
get it and join with this number then. you will see the difference after 
installation and its really easy from there on
PROTEIN
>From: "Rada Strauss" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: ICQ active list... theme "consciousness"
>Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 01:00:12 +0300 (EET DST)
>
>Hi--
>Please provide some info on how to get there to join...I have an icq # and
>went over there, but tried to look-up #48659904 and was told that there was
>no one registered to that number...I couldn't find lists anywhere.  So, if
>you could provide instructions or email my ICQ # from there, I would
>appreciate it.
>Thanks,
>Rada
>ICQ 40401541
>
>
>
>
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Re: ICQ active list... theme "consciousness"

its on www.icq.com
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ICQ

Could you resend the ICQ number for the consciousness discussion group?  I
deleted my email files  without saving that information.

headphones for bw ?

What heaphones would you suggest for the brainwave generator program ?
I have a pair of Koss Personal Stereo ( walkman type headphones ).
I do hear the sound generated by the program, but i want the best option
that I can get. I tried the Sleep I and Sleep II two presets, but I didnt
feel
sleepy.

Re: headphones for bw ?

My experience with the sleep presets were that the binaural beats were too
high.  I reset them to 1.5 Hz and was able to go to sleep fine.  I also
believe I used #2.. I used the one for high awareness to start.  You might
also try setting audible pitch to follow binaural beats.  This lowers the
audible pitch settings and is more soothing. Alternatively I could send you
one of my sleep presets as that is one of my main reasons for using BWG.  If
you are a registered user that is.
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Hopkins <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, September 18, 1999 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: headphones for bw ?
>What heaphones would you suggest for the brainwave generator program ?
>I have a pair of Koss Personal Stereo ( walkman type headphones ).
>I do hear the sound generated by the program, but i want the best option
>that I can get. I tried the Sleep I and Sleep II two presets, but I didnt
>feel
>sleepy.
>
>
>
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Re: ICQ

48659904

Re: ICQ

Here you are =)
48659904 "Consciousness"
>From: "Chad T Williams" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: ICQ
>Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 06:36:35 +0300 (EET DST)
>
>Could you resend the ICQ number for the consciousness discussion group?  I
>deleted my email files  without saving that information.
>
>
>
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Hello, I have some questions

I just started using bwgen, would regular Walkman like headphones work? =
Or do you need those expencive huge  headphones?
Thx=20
:)

Re: Hello, I have some questions

The more expensive the headphones, naturally, the better quality they will 
be...you don't have to go crazy and buy a $500 set but you DO get what you 
pay for with audio equipment.