Re: BrainWave Generator's Play to .wav file function

Hi,
The message below was sent to this list a couple of months ago.
If you people have used this function, I'd like to hear some
comments about it from you. Especially if you have had any problems
in accessing the .wav files generated by BrainWave Generator in
different applications.
Other comments and suggestions about this feature are also welcome.
Please email your comments directly to be ([email protected]), if
they are not of interest to everybody else. By default, replying to
this message will send the reply to the whole list.
-- 
Mikko Noromaa ([email protected])
Noromaa Solutions - see http://www.bwgen.com
> > I copy the BWG generated sound into tapes and play it with walkman. But it's
> > annoying to have different tapes with me. I can only record one sequence on
> > one side of the tape. I want to output it into wave file and burn a CD with
> > different collection. How to open the wave file output function?
> 
> Now that this came up here, following are the instructions for activating
> the wav file output function:
> 
> Add a new DWORD-type registry value "ExportWavOn" with a value of 1 under
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Noromaa Solutions\BrainWave Generator\2.
> Then, when you restart BrainWave Generator, there will be a new
> option "Play into .wav file" in the Wave menu. If you did not
> understand these instructions, please forget the whole thing.
> 
> NOTE: This function has not been tested properly, so use it at your
> own risk.

audible pitch

Hi,
Why "audible pitch" is only integer value - x Hz? I can't use for example
123.48Hz - frequency of crown chakra. I think that "audible pitch" should be
fractional - x,xx Hz.
Marcin Kowal

Re: audible pitch

Hi -
I too, would like to know about the precision of numbers entered into BWGEN.
It seems that some entries can be expressed in tenths, others only integers
(audible pitch).  Are these really limitations of BWGEN or does the rounding
to tenths & integers occur only on the display?
Also, the writer of the below message (Marcin Kowal) sites a frequency
(128.48 Hz) as the frequency of the Crown Chakra.  Where can some one find
frequency info like this?  Where did this come from? How was this determined? 
Any info on the above question will be greatly appreciated.
Dave
At 12:50 PM 4/14/99 +0300, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Why "audible pitch" is only integer value - x Hz? I can't use for example
>123.48Hz - frequency of crown chakra. I think that "audible pitch" should be
>fractional - x,xx Hz.
>
>
>Marcin Kowal
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: audible pitch

Hi everyone!
I just opened the wonder and I can't figure how to export in .wav file!
Any ideas???
THX

Re: audible pitch

Did you edit the registry as stated I did it and it works fine. I hvent
tried a 30 min wave yet but I have successfully recorded about 15 10 second
samples just as a test because I have a cd writer and plan to write a
meditation cd or OOBE cd if I can get it fine tuned enough for what I want.
I must say this program has been a godsend to me it helps me relax when my
nerves act up (bipolar disorder,manic depressive,panic attacks) Thanks for
the program and keep up the great research as I find a hard time finding
info on specific frequencies just the basic 4 states.
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Yves Perron <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: audible pitch
>Hi everyone!
>
>I just opened the wonder and I can't figure how to export in .wav file!
>Any ideas???
>
>THX
>
>
>
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Depressions

Bill.
What kinds of frequencys do you use to combat depression  and panic attacks.. I
can get into a several day stretch of
depression, it just gets damn old.  I hate it.  If you have any special
compositions, I'd appreciate it..
I like the BWG too its great..
Don

Re: audible pitch

Hi,
> I too, would like to know about the precision of numbers entered into BWGEN.
> It seems that some entries can be expressed in tenths, others only integers
> (audible pitch).  Are these really limitations of BWGEN or does the rounding
> to tenths & integers occur only on the display?
BrainWave Generator uses the same precision for generating output than
it allows you to enter values in. So when Audible Pitch can be
entered only as an integer value, it will also be used only as
an integer value. Binaural Beat Frequency, on the other hand,
allows you to enter values with two decimals, and it's precision
in the output will also be two decimal places.
The exception to this rule is the precision of the time scale:
it depends on the length of the segment. So if your segment is
only 10 minutes long, you can use a precision of 0.01 minutes
(=0.6 seconds) for setting the node times. If, however, your
segment is 240 minutes (=4 hours) long, the precision drops to
about 0.1 minutes (=6 seconds). In practise, this shouldn't
be a limiting factor.
The human ear of an average person can't hear the difference of 3-7 Hz
(depending on the frequency - differences are heard easier at lower
frequencies). Therefore, in my opinion, it is very unlikely that
anybody would benefit from an increased precision in the Audible
Pitch parameter. Since this precision increase would be quite easy to
implement, though, we may consider it for a future release.
-- 
Mikko Noromaa ([email protected])
Noromaa Solutions - see http://www.bwgen.com

Re: audible pitch

Dear Mikko -
You wrote:
>The human ear of an average person can't hear the difference of 3-7 Hz
>(depending on the frequency - differences are heard easier at lower
>frequencies). Therefore, in my opinion, it is very unlikely that
>anybody would benefit from an increased precision in the Audible
>Pitch parameter. Since this precision increase would be quite easy to
>implement, though, we may consider it for a future release.
>
I understand that people cannot perceive the difference of 3-7 Hz, however,
I do not believe that this is an appropriate criteria for pitch precision in
a binaural beat program.  This is a new technology, and the fact that we
cannot PERCEIVE the difference does not necessarily mean that the difference
has no effect. In my studies of bianural beat technologies, I have come
across several statements that binaural beat frequencies work best when they
are a multiple of the audible pitch (carriers).  I believe that this is very
important in making more coherent and symmetrical binaural beats.  I believe
that binaural beats created with frequencies that are direct multiples of
the beat frequency are more organic and therefor, may have the greater
potential for more powerful entrainment (admittedly, this is total
conjecture, but on a intuitive level feels right to me).  I have been using
Cool Edit to make my binaural beat files (true binaural beats, not the
modulated files that the program's brainwave function provides).  When
making my files, both the left & right channels are exact multiples of the
binaural beat in question (usually one channel = binaural beat frequency x
SomeFactor and the other channel = binaural beat frequency x SomeFactor+1).
I find these files very effective.  BWGEN is MUCH easier to use, but I
cannot make files that have carriers that are multiples of the binaural beat
frequency (unless my BB frequencies are integers).   Unfortunately, because
I feel that the carriers should be multiples of the binaural beat frequency,
and because the BB frequencies I work with have a precision of at least two
decimal places, I cannot use your wonderful program!   I implore you to
increase the precision of the audible pitch (as well as the beat frequency
itself) as much as possible! ... Three decimal places should be fine, though
I would settle for two ;)  
We are exploring uncharted waters and we should have tools of the highest
precision as possible... or at least practical. 
Also, I would like to make another suggestion:
I think it would be great if one could swap channels of some of the voices.
As it stands, BWGEN sets a pitch in the left channel and makes the right
channel higher by the value of the binaural beat frequency (If Binaural Beat
Freq (BB)= 10 then: LeftChannel=500Hz & RightChannel=500Hz + BB or 510Hz).
As a result, the right channel is always sharper than the left channel.
This, to me, seems a bit unbalanced.  In my work, the carrier frequencies
are almost as important as the BB frequencies, and to have the left
hemisphere of the brain ALWAYS get the root freq and the right hemisphere
ALWAYS be sharper by the BB freq seems to me to be a bit asymmetrical.  For
my work, I think it would be great if, say in a file with four voices, that
the second and forth voices could have their channels swapped so that in
these voices, the left channel is sharp.
Anyway, I think that BWGEN is a great program and I hope that you might
impliment my suggestions soon so I can use it in my work!
Thanx very much,
Dave

Re: audible pitch

Mikko wrote:
...
>>The human ear of an average person can't hear the difference of 3-7 Hz
>>(depending on the frequency - differences are heard easier at lower
>>frequencies). Therefore, in my opinion, it is very unlikely that
>>anybody would benefit from an increased precision in the Audible
>>Pitch parameter. Since this precision increase would be quite easy to
>>implement, though, we may consider it for a future release.
Hi, my name is Max, (http://transmillennium.net ) and
I'm new on this list.
 I agree very much with David Meschter.
The circumstance that the 'average' person can't hear the
difference is irrelevant to the subject. The 'average' person
can't hear ELF frequencies either (extremely low frequencies),
but they are known to have an influence.
I started to experiment with BWGEN and I like it very much.
For the subtle changes, Cool Edit does the job with some
work. For experimenting, it is necessary to create many
different combinations and BWGEN would be an even
greater tool than it already is.
If it's too much work with the graphical interface, I wouldn't
mind editing some configuration files by hand for this purpose.
In any case, thanks for BWGEN!
Max

Re: audible pitch

Hi,
> I understand that people cannot perceive the difference of 3-7 Hz, however,
> I do not believe that this is an appropriate criteria for pitch precision in
> a binaural beat program.
OK, point gotten. Precision will be increased to 2 decimal places
in future versions.
> I think it would be great if one could swap channels of some of the voices.
> As it stands, BWGEN sets a pitch in the left channel and makes the right
> channel higher by the value of the binaural beat frequency (If Binaural Beat
> Freq (BB)= 10 then: LeftChannel=500Hz & RightChannel=500Hz + BB or 510Hz).
Actually, this is already possible (undocumented, however). You can
set the Binaural Beat Frequency to a negative value, which effectively
swaps the channels. Also, a sweep from a positive to a negative
value (or vice versa) will create a very interesting effect while
crossing the zero-point. Of course, the sweep must be fast enough
for this effect to be noticed.
Setting Binaural Beat Frequency to a negative value only works in
BrainWave Generator version 2.0.7. This newest version can be
downloaded from http://www.bwgen.com.
-- 
Mikko Noromaa ([email protected])
Noromaa Solutions - see http://www.bwgen.com

Re: audible pitch

At 09:57 AM 4/20/99 +0300, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>> I understand that people cannot perceive the difference of 3-7 Hz, however,
>> I do not believe that this is an appropriate criteria for pitch precision in
>> a binaural beat program.
>
>OK, point gotten. Precision will be increased to 2 decimal places
>in future versions.
Thnaks very much, please let me know whenever the new version with this
feature is available! Thanx again for considering this point!
>
>> I think it would be great if one could swap channels of some of the voices.
>> As it stands, BWGEN sets a pitch in the left channel and makes the right
>> channel higher by the value of the binaural beat frequency (If Binaural Beat
>> Freq (BB)= 10 then: LeftChannel=500Hz & RightChannel=500Hz + BB or 510Hz).
>
>Actually, this is already possible (undocumented, however). You can
>set the Binaural Beat Frequency to a negative value, which effectively
>swaps the channels. Also, a sweep from a positive to a negative
>value (or vice versa) will create a very interesting effect while
>crossing the zero-point. Of course, the sweep must be fast enough
>for this effect to be noticed.
>
>Setting Binaural Beat Frequency to a negative value only works in
>BrainWave Generator version 2.0.7. This newest version can be
>downloaded from http://www.bwgen.com.
Thanx for this info also!  It will help me alot!
Dave

novice

I am new on the list and new user of great Brain Wave Generator.
I have a few questions maybe not direct connected with program but maybe you can help me.
Here they are:
1) In the generator a very high frequencies can be set. Is it possible (generally and with BWGEN)  to increase brain waves frequencies above 20 Hz? If yes what are the advantages?
2) Does BWGEN always works? Shouldn't I be relaxed and try not to allow my brain to work too intensive( when i try
 to decrease brain waves frequency) ? BWGEN works I feel it but can I be sure of reaching the frequency I wanted to get?
3) Are there any dangers of using BWGEN too often?
4) Why don't I sleep after using sleep induction preset? I sleep very well after it but isn't the final frequency of 4 Hz too low 
to be still aware?

Different with different Soundcards...

I've tried out Brainwave Generator with the same settings on 2
different Soundcards.
With a Soundblaster AWE32 and a Soundblaster 16....
Using the same settings for hardware and Brainwave Generator, playing
the generated tracks sound really different, which makes me extremely
thinking about the "existence" of something like brainwave generating
using plain cheap pc and hardware ?

Re: novice

Hi Belzebub -
Here are my two cents:
At 09:27 PM 4/20/99 +0300, you wrote:
>I have a few questions maybe not direct connected with program but maybe
you can help me.
>Here they are:
>
>1) In the generator a very high frequencies can be set. Is it possible
(generally and with >BWGEN)  to increase brain waves frequencies above 20
Hz? If yes what are the advantages?
Brainwaves have been measured up into the hundreds. In general, the higher
the brainwave frequency, the more "active" or alert you are.  But we all
have many brainwave frequencies occuring all the time.  The issure is what
is the dominant brainwave frequency.  The field is a bit divided on this
point but many people feel that binaural beats do not work much above 20 Hz.
This is appearently because the human range of hearing starts at about 20
Hz.  The theory is that above 20 Hz, the ear hears the tone difference as a
PITCH and not as a Beat frequency.  Not all agree on this.
>2) Does BWGEN always works? Shouldn't I be relaxed and try not to allow my
brain to work too intensive( when i try to decrease brain waves frequency) ?
BWGEN works I feel it but can I be sure of reaching the frequency I wanted
to get?
        Being relaxed is a good way to approach BWGEN and all binaural beat
technologies.  If you are not relaxed, you are most likely stimulated in
some way, thinking alot, which will cause a dominance in Beta brainwaves.
Binaural beat technologies will not FORCE the brain into submission
(entrainment).
>3) Are there any dangers of using BWGEN too often?
        I don't believe so, I have never heard or any problems other than
misuse like trying Deep Sleep while driving or something like that.
>4) Why don't I sleep after using sleep induction preset? I sleep very well
after it but isn't the final frequency of 4 Hz too low to be still aware?
        Again BWGEN will not FORCE you into sleep.  Also, 4 Hz is considered
low theta, and at about the threshold of sleep.  But if you are not tired,
or your mind is a bit busy, the brain may not be entrained to the low
frequencies enough to make them the dominant frequencies, so you will not
drop off to sleep.
These are my opinions.  Any and all opposing opinions are invited! That's
the purpose of a mailinglist: discussion!  
Dave
>>

Re: Different with different Soundcards...

Interesting!  Can you discribe the differences that you hear?
Dave
At 10:27 PM 4/20/99 +0300, you wrote:
>I've tried out Brainwave Generator with the same settings on 2
>different Soundcards.
>
>With a Soundblaster AWE32 and a Soundblaster 16....
>
>Using the same settings for hardware and Brainwave Generator, playing
>the generated tracks sound really different, which makes me extremely
>thinking about the "existence" of something like brainwave generating
>using plain cheap pc and hardware ?
>
>
>
>
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Re: Different with different Soundcards...

Hi,
> I've tried out Brainwave Generator with the same settings on 2
> different Soundcards.
> 
> With a Soundblaster AWE32 and a Soundblaster 16....
> 
> Using the same settings for hardware and Brainwave Generator, playing
> the generated tracks sound really different, which makes me extremely
> thinking about the "existence" of something like brainwave generating
> using plain cheap pc and hardware ?
BrainWave Generator is very simple in operation and doesn't thus
require any "fancy" sound-cards. However, these "fancy" sound
cards may have features that distort the output, like some
equalization settings or 3D support. These features may work
well for music and/or regular sound effects, but they will
only have a negative effect with software like BrainWave
Generator that relies on having total control of the sound
waveform.
Make sure your AWE32 has all special effects turned off.
Also, due to internal differences in sound cards, some
sample frequencies work better for some sound cards, so
you might also try varying the Samples per second setting
int Advanced options.
-- 
Mikko Noromaa ([email protected])
Noromaa Solutions - see http://www.bwgen.com

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The "Shock" sensation

DA> These are my opinions. Any and all opposing
DA> opinions are invited! That's the purpose of a
DA> mailinglist: discussion!  Dave
Hi, Dave, Hi All!
I am Cristiano, I not speak English very well, so...
Take it easy, ok? Ok, let's go...
I study mind habilities since 13 years old, when things
began to happen.
Today I am surprised with advance of technology in
"mind fitness". Here, in my land, the people don't listen
about this new devices and software.
Well, the main topic of my studies is the OOBEs.
I read many things about it. I read the excellent
book "Journeys Out of The Body" (?), here called
"Viagens Fora do Corpo", writed by Robert Monroe.
He talk about "Focus 10" and sound machines.
I am a novice in Internet... so... I begin to search in
Internet, and discovery that my Cool Edit is able to
build brainwave files! But is difficult. Searching again,
I find BWGEN, much more simple! But... I would like
to know why I don't reach the 100% sinc state always.
I did it only ONE once! :-(  Is true, I did it! I used a wave
file builded by me in Cool Edit, and I did! But the file was
erased........................................ :-(  After a period of
some depression, I find that BWGEN is more flexible
to use, and I did try to make a program more precise
than the old. I did it. But today I don't reach the same
results. The maximum that I do now is get some influence
of brainwaves... The 100% entrainment is incredible!
All my head appears to get a shock, and this
sensation go to the all areas of body!!! And if the
volume of sides (my headphone has independent
volume controls, is very good for experiences, and
you don't need to reach your mouse and computer
while in bed...)... if the volume of sides is changed,
the "shock" go to left or to right, as you want! And I
have a intuition that high frequencies really works,
but I don't tried it.
Some of you have this experience some once?
Waiting reply...
                  ---==<<Cristiano Galvao>>==---
_____________________________________________________________
http://www.zipmail.com.br   O e-mail que vai aonde voc� est�.
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Re: The "Shock" sensation

could you post the file you use?
-----Original Message-----
From: Cristiano Galv�o <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, April 21, 1999 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: The "Shock" sensation
DA> These are my opinions. Any and all opposing
DA> opinions are invited! That's the purpose of a
DA> mailinglist: discussion!  Dave
Hi, Dave, Hi All!
I am Cristiano, I not speak English very well, so...
Take it easy, ok? Ok, let's go...
I study mind habilities since 13 years old, when things
began to happen.
Today I am surprised with advance of technology in
"mind fitness". Here, in my land, the people don't listen
about this new devices and software.
Well, the main topic of my studies is the OOBEs.
I read many things about it. I read the excellent
book "Journeys Out of The Body" (?), here called
"Viagens Fora do Corpo", writed by Robert Monroe.
He talk about "Focus 10" and sound machines.
I am a novice in Internet... so... I begin to search in
Internet, and discovery that my Cool Edit is able to
build brainwave files! But is difficult. Searching again,
I find BWGEN, much more simple! But... I would like
to know why I don't reach the 100% sinc state always.
I did it only ONE once! :-(  Is true, I did it! I used a wave
file builded by me in Cool Edit, and I did! But the file was
erased........................................ :-(  After a period of
some depression, I find that BWGEN is more flexible
to use, and I did try to make a program more precise
than the old. I did it. But today I don't reach the same
results. The maximum that I do now is get some influence
of brainwaves... The 100% entrainment is incredible!
All my head appears to get a shock, and this
sensation go to the all areas of body!!! And if the
volume of sides (my headphone has independent
volume controls, is very good for experiences, and
you don't need to reach your mouse and computer
while in bed...)... if the volume of sides is changed,
the "shock" go to left or to right, as you want! And I
have a intuition that high frequencies really works,
but I don't tried it.
Some of you have this experience some once?
Waiting reply...
                  ---==<<Cristiano Galvao>>==---
_____________________________________________________________
http://www.zipmail.com.br   O e-mail que vai aonde voc� est�.
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Re: audible pitch

Why not just turn your headphones around to balance this?  I do.
Brad
-----Original Message-----
From: David Meschter <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: audible pitch
Also, I would like to make another suggestion:
I think it would be great if one could swap channels of some of the voices.
As it stands, BWGEN sets a pitch in the left channel and makes the right
channel higher by the value of the binaural beat frequency (If Binaural Beat
Freq (BB)= 10 then: LeftChannel=500Hz & RightChannel=500Hz + BB or 510Hz).
As a result, the right channel is always sharper than the left channel.

Residual effects

Hello all,
    I'm new to this list, and I am unsure as to whether or not this =
topic has come up for discussion before, but in light of my absence I =
hope you don't mind humoring me.
    I've noticed that after extended sessions with the BWG (well 10 min. =
or longer) After I remove the headset, there are audible residual tones =
that seem to last a few minutes after the session ends. I'm familiar =
with the effects of sound on your hearing (i.e. after long exposure to =
sound you adjust to the sound, and then when it is removed the absence =
of the sound creates an illusive effect of sound). I'm simply curious as =
to whether or not others experience this, whether or not they get used =
to it, and if there are any adverse affects that have been recorded by =
any of you BWG experimentalists.
    Thanks in advance for your input.
Sincerely,
Daniel Norfield

Smart Drugs and BWG

Hello,
I just joined this list, and I was wondering if you had already discussed
experiences with smart drugs (I'm specially concerned with Piracetam +
Choline/Soy Lecithin) and Light and Sound Machines (specially, of course,
BrainWave Generator). I'm sorry if this has been discussed to death
already. In that case, please just ignore me. :)
Sincerely,
Paulo
- Paulo Renato Dallagnol ("Piper") - [email protected] -
- Personal Home Page @ http://www.geocities.com/Paris/2480 -
- "What doesn't destroy me, makes me stronger" - Nietzsche -

Re: Dreams / The "Shock" sensation

El Mito> Hello!, I�ve just read your post to the list and
El Mito> i�d like to ask you if you have ever used bwgen
El Mito> to alter your dreaming, to lead out to premonition
El Mito> dreams for example, or even an OOBE.Thanks.
William Bales> could you post the file you use?
*** In my first message, the program more precise than
*** the old is a bwainwave sequence, not a program
*** like BWGEN. Sorry, my English is poor.
My file has nothing special. I just make a sequence
of alpha to theta waves, mixed with pink noise.
I think that are more things hidden in this fact.
My conclusion is that this sounds are a way to
help the user to reach altered states, it doesn't force
the natural waves of brain.
But I would like to know how do it again and again.
These files don't work always, do you understand?
Someone here has experienced things like this
some once, with or without artificial methods?
Is this sensation a special type of entrainment
("100% sync") or is this the true effect and
the "little influence" feel by the most users is
created by imagination?
                  ---==<<Cristiano Galvao>>==---
_____________________________________________________________
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another question

Could you explain me why BWGEN can't be used by people taking psychoactive drugs?

Fw: Residual effects

-----Original Message-----
From: Chad T Williams <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 10:02 PM
Subject: Re: Residual effects
Yes, Daniel, I have noticed it too but I am assuming that it is not =
related to listing to sounds that are too loud and could lead to =
tinnitus because I play my presets at fairly low volume.  The noise goes =
away soon and I don't worry about it.
=20
Chad
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Daniel Norfield <[email protected]>
    To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
    Date: Friday, April 23, 1999 3:31 PM
    Subject: Re: Residual effects
   =20
   =20
    Hello all,
        I'm new to this list, and I am unsure as to whether or not this =
topic has come up for discussion before, but in light of my absence I =
hope you don't mind humoring me.
        I've noticed that after extended sessions with the BWG (well 10 =
min. or longer) After I remove the headset, there are audible residual =
tones that seem to last a few minutes after the session ends. I'm =
familiar with the effects of sound on your hearing (i.e. after long =
exposure to sound you adjust to the sound, and then when it is removed =
the absence of the sound creates an illusive effect of sound). I'm =
simply curious as to whether or not others experience this, whether or =
not they get used to it, and if there are any adverse affects that have =
been recorded by any of you BWG experimentalists.
        Thanks in advance for your input.
    Sincerely,
    Daniel Norfield

About Bineural @ 1Hz !!!

Hello list!!
I've tryed the SW BWGEN and it is very good software for help the mind =
to reach balance and to decrease the brain frequency setting.
I've a good experience in meditation , but if I use a frequency of 1.1Hz =
I feel into the brain a sensation like a very good massage and It help =
me to reach a good meditation, but it's better to stop after 10 min.(I =
think that every people have a determinated range of frequency that is =
compatible for himself, may be that 1Hz is not good for all !!!!!!!) .
See the attached sound file that I normally use :
  =20


 enrico001.bwg

Please take me OFF!

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Re: audible pitch

Hi Brad -
If one were to turn the headphones around, ALL of the pitch orientations
would change.  I am wondering about the wisdom of the right channel ALWAYS
being sharper than the left, in All voices.  My question was if SOME of the
voices could be swaped so that, say voice one has the Right channel sharper
than the Left, but voice 2 has the Left channel sharper than the Right.
Mikko Noromaa pointed out that with the lates version of BWGEN, one can
enter a Negative Binaural Beat value, thus causing the Left channel to be
Flatter that the Right.  This works perfectly for my work.
Dave 
At 10:08 PM 4/23/99 +0300, you wrote:
>Why not just turn your headphones around to balance this?  I do.
>
>Brad
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Meschter <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>Date: Monday, April 19, 1999 8:12 PM
>Subject: Re: audible pitch
>
>
>Also, I would like to make another suggestion:
>I think it would be great if one could swap channels of some of the voices.
>As it stands, BWGEN sets a pitch in the left channel and makes the right
>channel higher by the value of the binaural beat frequency (If Binaural Beat
>Freq (BB)= 10 then: LeftChannel=500Hz & RightChannel=500Hz + BB or 510Hz).
>As a result, the right channel is always sharper than the left channel.
>
>
>
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Re: Residual effects

Yes, audio afterimage is a natural result of being exposed to constant pitches.
At 10:25 PM 4/23/99 +0300, you wrote:
>Hello all,
>    I'm new to this list, and I am unsure as to whether or not this topic
has come up for discussion before, but in light of my absence I hope you
don't mind humoring me.
>    I've noticed that after extended sessions with the BWG (well 10 min. or
longer) After I remove the headset, there are audible residual tones that
seem to last a few minutes after the session ends. I'm familiar with the
effects of sound on your hearing (i.e. after long exposure to sound you
adjust to the sound, and then when it is removed the absence of the sound
creates an illusive effect of sound). I'm simply curious as to whether or
not others experience this, whether or not they get used to it, and if there
are any adverse affects that have been recorded by any of you BWG
experimentalists.
>    Thanks in advance for your input.
>Sincerely,
>Daniel Norfield
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>am unsure as to whether or not this topic has come up for discussion
before, but 
>in light of my absence I hope you don't mind humoring me.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT color=#000000 size=2>    I've noticed that after 
>extended sessions with the BWG (well 10 min. or longer) After I remove the 
>headset, there are audible residual tones that seem to last a few minutes
after 
>the session ends. I'm familiar with the effects of sound on your hearing (i.e. 
>after long exposure to sound you adjust to the sound, and then when it is 
>removed the absence of the sound creates an illusive effect of sound). I'm 
>simply curious as to whether or not others experience this, whether or not
they 
>get used to it, and if there are any adverse affects that have been
recorded by 
>any of you BWG experimentalists.</FONT></DIV>
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Re: another question

Where has it been said that people taking psychoactive drugs can't use BWGEN?
At 02:45 AM 4/24/99 +0300, you wrote:
>Could you explain me why BWGEN can't be used by people taking psychoactive
drugs?
>
>
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Odp: another question

> Where has it been said that people taking psychoactive drugs can't use BWGEN?
On BWGEN homepage.

Anxiety disorders and BWGEN....

Hi,
I had a question.  I was interested in trying BWGEN beyond the little 3-4
minute intervals that I usually use it.
My problem is I have an anxiety disorder and I am afraid of losing control
or having an anxiety attack as a result of changing my brainwaves.
Does anyone else out there have panic disorder who use the BWGEN?  I do take
medicine to control my anxiety.  It's not really a psychoactive drug (IMHO)
its in the same family as Prozac.  I noticed that the homepage recommended
against using bwgen if you are on psychoactive drugs.
Many thanks,
Brad

Re: Fw: Residual effects

BrainWave Generator and tinnitus

Bruce, since no one else has responded yet I guess I will.  As far as I can
recall the subject has not come up since I subscribed to the list, which was
around the beginning of the year.
I just looked it up in my Encarta Encyclopedia and the article said it could
be due to a number of causes only one of which is constant exposure to loud
noises. I have experienced it during periods of extreme stress and lack of
sleep and also when using large doses of certain drugs or medications,
mainly analgesics.  With rest and stress reduction or having the drugs wear
off it has always diminished to the point where I don't notice it.  If it is
really quiet I can almost always hear some inner noise if I listen for it
and have for nearly as long as I can remember.  I just assumed it was
somewhat normal.  something like seeing colors behind closed eyes in a dark
room etc.
If it is due to prolonged exposure to loud noises or some other causes, It
my understanding that it is due to nerve damage and is not reversible.
Not being a Doctor, I really don't know and all I can recommend is asking
one or searching the web for articles on it.  There are probably lots, since
it seems to be a fairly common problem among frequent rock concert "goers",
and those who like to play their music at extremely high volumes or frequent
such places.  I haven't tried to find out.
BrainWave Generator might be useful if due to stress or lack of sleep.  Any
other cause I rather doubt it would be.
I welcome others to respond as well, because I really don't know.

tinnitus / BW more musical?

Hi,
I'd like  to give my 2cents to tinitus. Despite I never had tinitus myself
(so this isn't really accurate information) it might be helpful to someone.
As a music-student I'm in contact with many musicians which had tinitus for
a while. What had helped some of them was to figure out  what tone it is
they heard with their instrument. So, if you have access to a piano you
might try to find the note that you hear on the keyboard. If you do this for
a couple of days, the note migt  increase in high and deacrease in
intensity.
I've been listening to this group for a while now and I'm still not sure
whether to buy BWG or not. The demo-version may acutally work, but the sound
isn't that far away from noise to me. I'm looking for something more musical
or at last more pleasurable. To play music parallel to BWG doesn`t really
work, because BWG generates tones that don't follow any musical schemes.
(Even if they would it might be a difficult task to find a recording that
fit's to BW harmonies and tempo). Therefore BW interferes with the music
which is, for me, not very pleasurable. I realize that BWG intends to
produce sound's to alter brainwaves and not music. So, does anyone know a
similar approch that comes with music? I've heard  from CD's which use
similar concepts embeded in music. Can someone recommend something ?
Bye
Frank
-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Chad T Williams <[email protected]>
An: <[email protected]>
Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. April 1999 22:40
Betreff: Re: BrainWave Generator and tinnitus
> Bruce, since no one else has responded yet I guess I will.  As far as I
can
> recall the subject has not come up since I subscribed to the list, which
was
> around the beginning of the year.
>
> I just looked it up in my Encarta Encyclopedia and the article said it
could
> be due to a number of causes only one of which is constant exposure to
loud
> noises. I have experienced it during periods of extreme stress and lack of
> sleep and also when using large doses of certain drugs or medications,
> mainly analgesics.  With rest and stress reduction or having the drugs
wear
> off it has always diminished to the point where I don't notice it.  If it
is
> really quiet I can almost always hear some inner noise if I listen for it
> and have for nearly as long as I can remember.  I just assumed it was
> somewhat normal.  something like seeing colors behind closed eyes in a
dark
> room etc.
>
> If it is due to prolonged exposure to loud noises or some other causes, It
> my understanding that it is due to nerve damage and is not reversible.
>
> Not being a Doctor, I really don't know and all I can recommend is asking
> one or searching the web for articles on it.  There are probably lots,
since
> it seems to be a fairly common problem among frequent rock concert
"goers",
> and those who like to play their music at extremely high volumes or
frequent
> such places.  I haven't tried to find out.
>
> BrainWave Generator might be useful if due to stress or lack of sleep.
Any
> other cause I rather doubt it would be.
>
> I welcome others to respond as well, because I really don't know.
>
>
>
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Re: tinnitus / BW more musical?

Hi Folks -
I am not an audiologist but I think we may be confusing two different thngs.
It is my understanding that tinnitus and audio afterimage are two very
different things.  Tinnitus is a perceived sound in the ears such as a
ringing or buzzing that is caused by a defect or damage of the auditory
nerve.  This can be from overexposure to loud sounds or a general
deterioriation of the nerve.  Some what related to this is the ringing that
can occur in one's ears after a loud rock concert or perhaps an explosion of
some type. this is caused by temporary threshold: a deffence mechanism in
the ear wher it tries to close down the ear canal to protect the ear drum.
I beleive that it is HIGHLY unlikely that any intelligent person is using
BWGEN at volume levels that could approach either of these conditions.
However, the sound that may continue in a BWGEN user's ears after a session
is not a form of tinnitus, but audio afterimage.  This afterimage is similar
to the blue dot one sees after some one has taken a flash photo of you (if
you were looking at the camera flash at the time of the picture).  The ear
has been hearing a tone or set of tones so steadily and for so long, that
when the stimulus is stopped the ear still hears the tone(s) fo some short time.
Any & all commentes are invited.  If I am incorrect about these things,
please let me know.  I am a sound designer and should know these things better!
Dave
At 11:18 AM 4/27/99 +0300, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'd like  to give my 2cents to tinitus. Despite I never had tinitus myself
>(so this isn't really accurate information) it might be helpful to someone.
>As a music-student I'm in contact with many musicians which had tinitus for
>a while. What had helped some of them was to figure out  what tone it is
>they heard with their instrument. So, if you have access to a piano you
>might try to find the note that you hear on the keyboard. If you do this for
>a couple of days, the note migt  increase in high and deacrease in
>intensity.
>
>I've been listening to this group for a while now and I'm still not sure
>whether to buy BWG or not. The demo-version may acutally work, but the sound
>isn't that far away from noise to me. I'm looking for something more musical
>or at last more pleasurable. To play music parallel to BWG doesn`t really
>work, because BWG generates tones that don't follow any musical schemes.
>(Even if they would it might be a difficult task to find a recording that
>fit's to BW harmonies and tempo). Therefore BW interferes with the music
>which is, for me, not very pleasurable. I realize that BWG intends to
>produce sound's to alter brainwaves and not music. So, does anyone know a
>similar approch that comes with music? I've heard  from CD's which use
>similar concepts embeded in music. Can someone recommend something ?
>
>Bye
>
>Frank
>-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: Chad T Williams <[email protected]>
>An: <[email protected]>
>Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. April 1999 22:40
>Betreff: Re: BrainWave Generator and tinnitus
>
>
>> Bruce, since no one else has responded yet I guess I will.  As far as I
>can
>> recall the subject has not come up since I subscribed to the list, which
>was
>> around the beginning of the year.
>>
>> I just looked it up in my Encarta Encyclopedia and the article said it
>could
>> be due to a number of causes only one of which is constant exposure to
>loud
>> noises. I have experienced it during periods of extreme stress and lack of
>> sleep and also when using large doses of certain drugs or medications,
>> mainly analgesics.  With rest and stress reduction or having the drugs
>wear
>> off it has always diminished to the point where I don't notice it.  If it
>is
>> really quiet I can almost always hear some inner noise if I listen for it
>> and have for nearly as long as I can remember.  I just assumed it was
>> somewhat normal.  something like seeing colors behind closed eyes in a
>dark
>> room etc.
>>
>> If it is due to prolonged exposure to loud noises or some other causes, It
>> my understanding that it is due to nerve damage and is not reversible.
>>
>> Not being a Doctor, I really don't know and all I can recommend is asking
>> one or searching the web for articles on it.  There are probably lots,
>since
>> it seems to be a fairly common problem among frequent rock concert
>"goers",
>> and those who like to play their music at extremely high volumes or
>frequent
>> such places.  I haven't tried to find out.
>>
>> BrainWave Generator might be useful if due to stress or lack of sleep.
>Any
>> other cause I rather doubt it would be.
>>
>> I welcome others to respond as well, because I really don't know.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>
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Re: tinnitus / BW more musical?

Hi Frank -
At 11:18 AM 4/27/99 +0300, you wrote:
>
>I've been listening to this group for a while now and I'm still not sure
>whether to buy BWG or not. The demo-version may acutally work, but the sound
>isn't that far away from noise to me. 
Hi Frank, what do you mean by NOISE?  If you mean anything like static or
hiss, BWGEN may not be working properly on your system (unless you using
noise as a selected backgroung).  If you mean by NOISE that the ratios are
not CONSONANT, than yes, BWGEN frequencies are chosen for there binaural
beat effect on the brain, not their consonance.
>I'm looking for something more musical
>or at last more pleasurable. To play music parallel to BWG doesn`t really
>work, because BWG generates tones that don't follow any musical schemes.
>(Even if they would it might be a difficult task to find a recording that
>fit's to BW harmonies and tempo). Therefore BW interferes with the music
>which is, for me, not very pleasurable. 
I, too, find it difficult to use BWGEN or any other binaural beat
technology, with music.  Main;y because the BB tones, end up beating with
the pitches in the music.
If you are looking for music technologies that are designed to effect
consciousness, check out the music of Steven Halpern, he has been doing this
for years, as well as the books of Don Cambell (example: "Music and
Miracles" and/or "Music: Physician for Times to Come")
Dave 
>I realize that BWG intends to
>produce sound's to alter brainwaves and not music. So, does anyone know a
>similar approch that comes with music? I've heard  from CD's which use
>similar concepts embeded in music. Can someone recommend something ?
>
>Bye
>
>Frank
>-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: Chad T Williams <[email protected]>
>An: <[email protected]>
>Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. April 1999 22:40
>Betreff: Re: BrainWave Generator and tinnitus
>
>
>> Bruce, since no one else has responded yet I guess I will.  As far as I
>can
>> recall the subject has not come up since I subscribed to the list, which
>was
>> around the beginning of the year.
>>
>> I just looked it up in my Encarta Encyclopedia and the article said it
>could
>> be due to a number of causes only one of which is constant exposure to
>loud
>> noises. I have experienced it during periods of extreme stress and lack of
>> sleep and also when using large doses of certain drugs or medications,
>> mainly analgesics.  With rest and stress reduction or having the drugs
>wear
>> off it has always diminished to the point where I don't notice it.  If it
>is
>> really quiet I can almost always hear some inner noise if I listen for it
>> and have for nearly as long as I can remember.  I just assumed it was
>> somewhat normal.  something like seeing colors behind closed eyes in a
>dark
>> room etc.
>>
>> If it is due to prolonged exposure to loud noises or some other causes, It
>> my understanding that it is due to nerve damage and is not reversible.
>>
>> Not being a Doctor, I really don't know and all I can recommend is asking
>> one or searching the web for articles on it.  There are probably lots,
>since
>> it seems to be a fairly common problem among frequent rock concert
>"goers",
>> and those who like to play their music at extremely high volumes or
>frequent
>> such places.  I haven't tried to find out.
>>
>> BrainWave Generator might be useful if due to stress or lack of sleep.
>Any
>> other cause I rather doubt it would be.
>>
>> I welcome others to respond as well, because I really don't know.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>
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Re: tinnitus / BW more musical?

Hi David!
I mean by NOISE any sound that isn't pleasurable or musical to me. I've
choosen the word because my englisch still often doesn't give me the proper
words. (So actually I've not "choosen" to use the word, since there was
nothingto choose from, but anyway ...) Simply a language problem.
But as I said, I realize that brainwave doesn't want to generate some bach
fuges or Bill Evans Jazz tunes, so this isn't really a critic of the
programm, which seems to work quite well.
bye
Frank
-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: David Meschter <[email protected]>
An: <[email protected]>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. April 1999 13:16
Betreff: Re: tinnitus / BW more musical?
> Hi Frank -
>
>
>
> At 11:18 AM 4/27/99 +0300, you wrote:
>
> >
> >I've been listening to this group for a while now and I'm still not sure
> >whether to buy BWG or not. The demo-version may acutally work, but the
sound
> >isn't that far away from noise to me.
>
> Hi Frank, what do you mean by NOISE?  If you mean anything like static or
> hiss, BWGEN may not be working properly on your system (unless you using
> noise as a selected backgroung).  If you mean by NOISE that the ratios are
> not CONSONANT, than yes, BWGEN frequencies are chosen for there binaural
> beat effect on the brain, not their consonance.
>
> >I'm looking for something more musical
> >or at last more pleasurable. To play music parallel to BWG doesn`t really
> >work, because BWG generates tones that don't follow any musical schemes.
> >(Even if they would it might be a difficult task to find a recording that
> >fit's to BW harmonies and tempo). Therefore BW interferes with the music
> >which is, for me, not very pleasurable.
>
> I, too, find it difficult to use BWGEN or any other binaural beat
> technology, with music.  Main;y because the BB tones, end up beating with
> the pitches in the music.
>
> If you are looking for music technologies that are designed to effect
> consciousness, check out the music of Steven Halpern, he has been doing
this
> for years, as well as the books of Don Cambell (example: "Music and
> Miracles" and/or "Music: Physician for Times to Come")
>
> Dave
>
>
> >I realize that BWG intends to
> >produce sound's to alter brainwaves and not music. So, does anyone know a
> >similar approch that comes with music? I've heard  from CD's which use
> >similar concepts embeded in music. Can someone recommend something ?
> >
> >Bye
> >
> >Frank
> >-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
> >Von: Chad T Williams <[email protected]>
> >An: <[email protected]>
> >Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. April 1999 22:40
> >Betreff: Re: BrainWave Generator and tinnitus
> >
> >
> >> Bruce, since no one else has responded yet I guess I will.  As far as I
> >can
> >> recall the subject has not come up since I subscribed to the list,
which
> >was
> >> around the beginning of the year.
> >>
> >> I just looked it up in my Encarta Encyclopedia and the article said it
> >could
> >> be due to a number of causes only one of which is constant exposure to
> >loud
> >> noises. I have experienced it during periods of extreme stress and lack
of
> >> sleep and also when using large doses of certain drugs or medications,
> >> mainly analgesics.  With rest and stress reduction or having the drugs
> >wear
> >> off it has always diminished to the point where I don't notice it.  If
it
> >is
> >> really quiet I can almost always hear some inner noise if I listen for
it
> >> and have for nearly as long as I can remember.  I just assumed it was
> >> somewhat normal.  something like seeing colors behind closed eyes in a
> >dark
> >> room etc.
> >>
> >> If it is due to prolonged exposure to loud noises or some other causes,
It
> >> my understanding that it is due to nerve damage and is not reversible.
> >>
> >> Not being a Doctor, I really don't know and all I can recommend is
asking
> >> one or searching the web for articles on it.  There are probably lots,
> >since
> >> it seems to be a fairly common problem among frequent rock concert
> >"goers",
> >> and those who like to play their music at extremely high volumes or
> >frequent
> >> such places.  I haven't tried to find out.
> >>
> >> BrainWave Generator might be useful if due to stress or lack of sleep.
> >Any
> >> other cause I rather doubt it would be.
> >>
> >> I welcome others to respond as well, because I really don't know.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> "unsubscribe" in the subject. For more information on this list and
> >> the BrainWave Generator software, see http://www.bwgen.com.
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: tinnitus / BW more musical?

At 07:22 PM 4/28/99 +0300, you wrote:
>Hi David!
>
>I mean by NOISE any sound that isn't pleasurable or musical to me. I've
>choosen the word because my englisch still often doesn't give me the proper
>words. (So actually I've not "choosen" to use the word, since there was
>nothingto choose from, but anyway ...) Simply a language problem.
>
>But as I said, I realize that brainwave doesn't want to generate some bach
>fuges or Bill Evans Jazz tunes, so this isn't really a critic of the
>programm, which seems to work quite well.
>
>bye
>Frank
Hi Frank -
Although music can have a very powerful emotional effect on the listener,
Binaural Beat Technologies work to create a very specific condition in the
brain.  It works to evoke specific frequencies of brainwave patterns.  I
don't believe that music as we know it could work so specifically (unless BB
technologies were some how present).
BTW:  If you are interested in Binaural Beats IN MUSIC and work with MIDI
synthesizers, check out :
http://www.phi-music.com/
At this site you can find a program (for the windows3.1/95/98/NT world) That
will cause binaural beats of any given frequency for every note on a MIDI
keyboard.  That is, if you want a binaural beat of say, 7Hz, then this
program would cause every note on the MIDI keyboard to create two tones that
will be assigned to Left and Right channels and will beat at 7Hz.
Check it out!  Tell them Dave Meschter sent you (though I'm sure they have
forgotten who I am)
Dave
>
>
>
>-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
>Von: David Meschter <[email protected]>
>An: <[email protected]>
>Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. April 1999 13:16
>Betreff: Re: tinnitus / BW more musical?
>
>
>> Hi Frank -
>>
>>
>>
>> At 11:18 AM 4/27/99 +0300, you wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >I've been listening to this group for a while now and I'm still not sure
>> >whether to buy BWG or not. The demo-version may acutally work, but the
>sound
>> >isn't that far away from noise to me.
>>
>> Hi Frank, what do you mean by NOISE?  If you mean anything like static or
>> hiss, BWGEN may not be working properly on your system (unless you using
>> noise as a selected backgroung).  If you mean by NOISE that the ratios are
>> not CONSONANT, than yes, BWGEN frequencies are chosen for there binaural
>> beat effect on the brain, not their consonance.
>>
>> >I'm looking for something more musical
>> >or at last more pleasurable. To play music parallel to BWG doesn`t really
>> >work, because BWG generates tones that don't follow any musical schemes.
>> >(Even if they would it might be a difficult task to find a recording that
>> >fit's to BW harmonies and tempo). Therefore BW interferes with the music
>> >which is, for me, not very pleasurable.
>>
>> I, too, find it difficult to use BWGEN or any other binaural beat
>> technology, with music.  Main;y because the BB tones, end up beating with
>> the pitches in the music.
>>
>> If you are looking for music technologies that are designed to effect
>> consciousness, check out the music of Steven Halpern, he has been doing
>this
>> for years, as well as the books of Don Cambell (example: "Music and
>> Miracles" and/or "Music: Physician for Times to Come")
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> >I realize that BWG intends to
>> >produce sound's to alter brainwaves and not music. So, does anyone know a
>> >similar approch that comes with music? I've heard  from CD's which use
>> >similar concepts embeded in music. Can someone recommend something ?
>> >
>> >Bye
>> >
>> >Frank
>> >-----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
>> >Von: Chad T Williams <[email protected]>
>> >An: <[email protected]>
>> >Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. April 1999 22:40
>> >Betreff: Re: BrainWave Generator and tinnitus
>> >
>> >
>> >> Bruce, since no one else has responded yet I guess I will.  As far as I
>> >can
>> >> recall the subject has not come up since I subscribed to the list,
>which
>> >was
>> >> around the beginning of the year.
>> >>
>> >> I just looked it up in my Encarta Encyclopedia and the article said it
>> >could
>> >> be due to a number of causes only one of which is constant exposure to
>> >loud
>> >> noises. I have experienced it during periods of extreme stress and lack
>of
>> >> sleep and also when using large doses of certain drugs or medications,
>> >> mainly analgesics.  With rest and stress reduction or having the drugs
>> >wear
>> >> off it has always diminished to the point where I don't notice it.  If
>it
>> >is
>> >> really quiet I can almost always hear some inner noise if I listen for
>it
>> >> and have for nearly as long as I can remember.  I just assumed it was
>> >> somewhat normal.  something like seeing colors behind closed eyes in a
>> >dark
>> >> room etc.
>> >>
>> >> If it is due to prolonged exposure to loud noises or some other causes,
>It
>> >> my understanding that it is due to nerve damage and is not reversible.
>> >>
>> >> Not being a Doctor, I really don't know and all I can recommend is
>asking
>> >> one or searching the web for articles on it.  There are probably lots,
>> >since
>> >> it seems to be a fairly common problem among frequent rock concert
>> >"goers",
>> >> and those who like to play their music at extremely high volumes or
>> >frequent
>> >> such places.  I haven't tried to find out.
>> >>
>> >> BrainWave Generator might be useful if due to stress or lack of sleep.
>> >Any
>> >> other cause I rather doubt it would be.
>> >>
>> >> I welcome others to respond as well, because I really don't know.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >
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Questions

Hi Folks -
Some General Questions for all interested in answering:
In your studies and investigation on the subject of Binaural Beats, have you
ever come across a discussion of the effectiveness of binaural beats created
with two different frequencies (like BWGEN) versus binaural beats created by
delay modulation (like Cool Edit does)?  
What do you feel are relable information sources on the topic of binaural beats?
Have you ever come across any formula or protocol that describes how loud
binaural beat tones should be in relation to the music or steady noise that
it is combined with?  I have seen several times that the BB tones "have a
more powerful effect" when they are rather soft.  The Michael Hutchinson
MegaBrain tapes have the tones barely audible.
Also, some literature states that the effectiveness of binaural beats
greatly diminishes above 20Hz because at this point the brain starts to
interpret the beats as an audible frequency, yet other literature talks of
binaural beats being effective for 40Hz and higher... What do you think?
What are some good reliable sources for information on the effects and
effectiveness of SPECIFIC binaural beat frequencies on the brain?
Thanx,
Dave